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  2. Dabura

    2019 Draft

    Right, but no one's saying Holland would be holding Yzerman's hand. It's Yzerman's team now, but it's not like Holland is worthless. Dude has a ton of experience and institutional knowledge and insight. He's practically an NHL institution unto himself. If you can have that kind of guy in your front office and he's happy doing what he's doing, you take it without thinking twice. Yzerman + Holland = Big Hockey Brain. Think of how much brain power the organization has lost in recent years. Think of how often you see people lamenting that "brain drain." Personally, I'd like to see the Wings get back to collecting "institutional" guys. Not for the sake of having big names, but for the collective brain power. What's Larionov up to? What's Fedorov up to? Is Scotty Bowman bored?
  3. Barrie

    Report: Detroit to name Steve Yzerman as GM

    Welcome back Stevie!
  4. Barrie

    TOR vs. BOS - Series Thread

    How do the Leafs lose Game 4 + 6? I have not been impressed with Babcock the last two playoffs. If Boston wins the series, I think the Leafs should consider firing Babcock.
  5. kickazz

    2019 Draft

    You must not know Steve Yzerman if you think he isn’t already upto speed on our prospects. He’ll speak to Holland etc, but ultimately he’ll do what he thinks is right.
  6. LeftWinger

    2019 Draft

    Yzerman knows very well the prospects, he said that the reason he knows about them is that they scouted all the same players. Plus, Holland knowing about kids we have has nothing to do with this draft. Plus, you don't think Yzerman has been evaluating this team from Day 1 of the season? If anyone thinks this plan was not in the works from last fall, then you're blind. Like I said, opinions and advice are fine a d Yzerman will listen to all, but Holland will have zero choice in the matter when it comes to drafting. They are not co-GM's, Yzerman is in charge. Yzerman is very capable of building a winning team without his hand being held.
  7. Dabura

    2019 Draft

    See, this is what I'm cautioning against. Don't expect Yzerman to be a radical departure from Holland. At least, not right away. There are probably identifiable differences in the way Yzerman does business and the way Holland does business. For example, I personally feel better with Yzerman running our drafts. However, I don't think there are huge fundamental differences in the way the two men see things. (They are, after all, cut from the same Red Wings cloth.) The "identifiable differences" I'm referring to aren't even necessarily a thing, because comparing Yzerman-Tampa (2010-2019) to Holland-Detroit (2010-2019) isn't a straightforward apples-to-apples comparison. Yzerman replacing Holland does not necessarily mean "We finally have a guy who will do what needs to be done, and what needs to be done is what I think needs to be done, so what I'm saying is Yzerman is finally going to give me what I've been asking for." I really don't want to see Wings fans turn on Yzerman if he doesn't prove to be the Anti-Holland.
  8. Dabura

    TOR vs. BOS - Series Thread

    boston evens series, nbd. #1776
  9. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2019 Draft

    Everything I heard in the press conference says otherwise. Holland is much more familiar with what the team has regarding prospects. Yzerman isn't. He has 2 months to get up to speed. If u think that he isnt going to consult with the guy who has led this team for 22 years, you're wrong. Like it, or not, Holland is an asset to Yzerman. He said so in the press conference. Steve would actually be a bad manager to not take advantage of Holland's experience and knowledge. Holland was a scout for years before he was a GM. Yzerman would be an idiot to leave Holland out of the loop.
  10. Dabura

    2019 Draft

    The concern is that he's a slightly more talented Libor Sulak. He checks off several boxes: size, skating (his lateral skating might be a problem tho), offensive instincts. But there are questions about his scoring upside. As with Sulak, there are signs that he might lack the requisite raw talent for executing high-end plays at the highest levels and putting up big numbers at the highest levels. You can't teach a Darren Helm to be a Dylan Larkin. Like, here's Tobias Bjornfot, a teenage Swedish defenseman who's eligible to be drafted in June: That's a great end-to-end rush, and it almost results in a goal. So where does this stud project to be selected in the draft? The 2nd round. Because, while the skating and instincts are there, the ability to be an offense-driver in the NHL is not necessarily there. https://dobberprospects.com/player/tobias-bjornfot/ Same kind of deal with other defensemen in this draft class (including Mikko Kokkonen, who's currently the guy I think we should be targeting with our first 2nd-round pick). Lots of mobile two-way defensemen with good offensive instincts, but counting on any of them to be the kind of elite guy we're longing for is risky. So you go for them a bit later than 6th overall, because at 6th overall there will be several other players who are probably more likely to become elite players. Then again, maybe Hakan Andersson loves Broberg and insists we take him with our first pick. Drafting defensemen is a crapshoot, so who knows.
  11. Dabura

    WPG vs STL - Series Thread

    It's our duty as Americans. No man left behind.
  12. Fedorov spends some time during the summers in Michigan where his mother lives. Yzerplan: Acquire Fedorov. Trade for Trouba or sign Karlsson Sign Duchene. Promote AA to the throne.
  13. kickazz

    WPG vs STL - Series Thread

    Bring him home.
  14. xault

    WPG vs STL - Series Thread

    Trouba is a RFA right? Do we have what it would take to grab him and can we afford it?
  15. LeftWinger

    2019 Draft

    Could be. We all know how drafts tend to play out. I feel that if Cozens and Byram ate both gone, Turcotte will be the pick. You can always put a C on wing, but it's quite hard for a wing to go to C. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Steve took Cole Caulfield at 6, his stock is rising steadily. Probably still a bit high for him, but ya never know. That top 6 on team USA is lights out man!
  16. Jonas Mahonas

    2019 Draft

    I dont know why this guy isn't rated higher, but I think he's the best dman in the draft.
  17. He got a 1st rounder for KFQ.
  18. LeftWinger

    2019 Draft

    I feel very contrary to this. This is not Yzerman's first ever draft, he does not need his hand held. Will he take in to consideration opinions from all? Sure, but ultimately, this is not Holland place anymore. Yzerman will meet mostly with scouts and make his own decision on the players he selects. He is the GM, this is his team to build. He is not Co-GM with Holland, this is not some sort of Marvel Team-Up where they choose together. This is Steve's team now, again, advice and opinions aside, Steve makes the decision's, none of it has to do with Holland anymore. I fully expect the type of player(s) selected will reflect on Steve's vision for the future of the makeup of this team, which could be polar opposite of Holland's. Which I welcome with open arms. If we wanted more Holland, we would've kept Holland, or promoted from within. I am SO glad that we more than likely won't see anymore 2nd round experimental picks! (ie. Berggren, when Holland should've drafted another D, like Woo or Wilde with that extra 2nd round pick. This is Yzerman's team and this will be Yzerman's draft. Holland can just stay home.
  19. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2019 Draft

    It doesnt really change my cofidence one way or another. You gotta think that with the draft only 2 months away that Holland will still be heavily involved with this one, which makes sense considering his history as a scout. Having both Yzerman AND Holland at the helm for rhe draft gives me reason for optimism, but I dont think it changes our picks all that much if at all. Where I really think the advantage will be is with roster management. Yzerman can utilize buyouts or trade away bad contracts more easily than Holland could because he doesn't have to fix his own mistakes and allows Holland some measure of saving face. Also, I don't think he makes the same moves in free agency as Holland does, although I do think he lets Kronwall come back for another year if he wants to. Those 2 have history. I just dont think you'll see him bring in the Vanek types anymore.
  20. LeftWinger

    2019 Draft

    #6? I'm thinking that's a bit high for him.
  21. Euro_Twins

    2019 Draft

    So you admit goku is better!
  22. F.Michael

    WPG vs STL - Series Thread

    Personally I'd like to see a Stars/Blues series next.
  23. kylee

    NSH vs DAL - Series Thread

    Pleasantly surprised by this series, so far. Dallas' top line is just overpowering the Preds, which is odd because in a lot of cases 1 line can be shut down in the playoffs. Dallas is capitalizing and playing a hard checking game as well as Nashville playing bad team defense in front of Rinne. Edit: Subban got burned on 2 goals. Yikes.
  24. GMRwings1983

    WPG vs STL - Series Thread

    That's true but I wouldn't say they screw it up. They never have the talent or goaltending that the other teams have. They're never deep at center and lack the superstar power. Tarasenko is good and many of their players are playing well right now, but will they get enough scoring or goaltending to go all the way?
  25. chaps80

    CAR vs WSH - Series Thread

    And Ward in his rookie season taking them all the way after Gerber imploded.
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