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the article is ok with me, just a little bias but everyone has their teams to follow. BESIDES THE SABRES ARE NOT GOING TO WIN IT THIS YEAR, how many times has the number 1 or 2 seed in the playoffs won?

Carolina 2006, Tampa Bay 2004, New Jersey 2003, Detroit 2002, Colorado 2001....all were #1 or #2 seed....

Thge last team that was no a #1 or #2 seed to win the Cup? New Jersey in 2000, and they were second in the conference in points, but behind division winner Philadelphia.

Dallas in 99 won the pres trophy. Detroit in 98 was second in the division, and the third seed, but had more points than Colorado.

Detroit in 1997 was the Cup-winning last team that was not either a top-two seed in the conference, or top-two in the conference in points.

New Jersey in 1995 was the fourth seed and fourth in points. The New York Rangers were president's trophy winners.

So under the current system, a top two seed has won eight of twelve times, with two more coming from the 'real' second best team.

Montreal in 1993 was fourth in the conference, but entered the playoffs as the visiting team due to divisional seeding. That would be the only series they did not have home ice, as Boston and Pittsburgh would both lose the round before they would have faced Montreal.

Pittsburgh in 92 was in the same situation as 1993 Montreal, except they did play their division winner in round 2.

Pittsburgh in 91 won their division.

Edmonton in 1990 was second in their division with 90 points, but that was better than Chicago's Norris-division leading 88.

Montreal in 1986 was the fifth best team in the conference, second in their division. But they had home ice advantage throughout the conference because all four teams ahead of them lost in earlier rounds; Only Calgary in the finals hads home ice over the Canadiens; That was only by a two-point margin.

That's 20 years of history, and only a handful of winners WEREN'T near the top of their conference.

Just goes to show...that to win the Stanley Cup without having home ice advantage in the playoffs is extremely difficult.

EDIT: If you were to take the top six teams in points each season, and declare that those were the only 'eligible' teams to win the Cup...only one team in the history of the league would be an ineligible winner. Montreal 1986. And those Wales conference upsets featured 3 upsets in the first round and one in the second, none of which involved the Canadiens, plus two upsets in the first round of the Campbell playoffs, and one in the second. Montreal ended up playing sixth-overall Calgary rather than first overall and defending champion Edmonton in the finals.

In other words, to win the Cup if you aren't a top team in the league takes an incredible amount of luck in the form of better teams losing.

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Guest Crymson

Kara Yorio is either addicted to LSD, or she's actually just a bot programmed to write random, senseless hockey articles.

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the article is ok with me, just a little bias but everyone has their teams to follow. BESIDES THE SABRES ARE NOT GOING TO WIN IT THIS YEAR, how many times has the number 1 or 2 seed in the playoffs won?

You're saying they're not going to win because they're the #1 or #2 seed? What kind of logic is that?

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the fact is, weaker teams often upset better teams, but rarelay make it all the way :P

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the wings in 2002 did

Dallas in '99, Avs in '01, I think the Devils were #2 in '00.

The '94 Rangers.

The Mario Penguins.

Oh, Tampa was #2 in '04.

Carolina was the 3rd or 4th overall seed last season.

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Dallas in '99, Avs in '01, I think the Devils were #2 in '00.

The '94 Rangers.

The Mario Penguins.

Oh, Tampa was #2 in '04.

Carolina was the 3rd or 4th overall seed last season.

Carolina was second in their conference and i believe 3rd overall..but they had home ice from start to finish. Like many other Cup winners.

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the fact is, weaker teams often upset better teams, but rarelay make it all the way :P

The Detroit Red Wings in 1997 twice won against teams that posted better records. I can't think of any teams that have won three rounds against teams with better records--given that only one team has ever won while being outside the top six overall, and that team only played one superior regular seaosn team, it seems to be pretty unlikely.

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