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In other words give up nothing /get something in return for our cap dumps and give up nothing of significant value for a top pairing dman and also get the team to retain half salary? More realistic: to EDM : Justin Holl, 2025 2nd Round Pick to DET : Furture Considerations to VAN : Ville Husso (50% retained), 2025 3rd Round Pick to DET : Furture Considerations to ANA : Shai Buium, Carter Mazur, 2026 2nd round pick to DET : Cam Fowler Most of us probably wouldnt do any of those trades which is probably why Yzerman hasnt made any of the trades so many have been clamoring for. Other teams dont want our scraps and were not getting top of the lineup players for scraps.

I'm loving the new Raymond contract. I expect Seider signs for somewhere just south of Larkin...something like 8.5-8.6 million per year. If we can have Raymond, Seider, and Larkin signed long term for under 30 million collectively we're in a really good position to go big game hunting in free agency over the next couple years. Huge win for us with this contract.

And all along you were doubting Grand Master Y/Rabbi Saul Goyzerman/Stevie Y...