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Bulls***. I can count the number of bad games he's had this season on one hand. Goaltending is not this team's problem by any stretch of the imagination.

Agreed. I don't think anyone has a problem with the league making money. More revenue, the cap goes up, that benefits the Wings. But from a fan's perspective, it's about maintaining integrity while also making money. Like putting advertisements on the players jerseys. That would make the league a ton more money. Is it going to change in any way how hockey in the NHL is played? Absolutely not. But I still hope they never do such a thing because even though the game is exactly the same, it cheapens it. The Winter Classic had integrity and by it's exclusivity of once a year it was a special event. The amount of promotion, build up to the game, everything keyed in this one outdoor game. Adding 5 other games certainly isn't the end of the world, but it took an incredibly unique event and basically turned it into 6 hockey games that are played outside.

We like our team

Anytime a Wings player has a chance from a high scoring area like Mule just did and they pass the puck, Babcock should bench them the rest of the game. Maybe then they'd get the message to shoot the damn puck! You are not the Russian 5. When you get in a high percentage area, let er rip.

When is a Wing going to respond?

I don't think he's a disappointment. He's a guy that creates energy and is capable of 30 points. Which I'm sure he could do if he played. Looks like a dumb contract for the little amount of ice time he's getting

Kipper stole the game and Jimmy needs to never come out of his net again.

I am done with them for the night. They are scary bad to the point of embarrassment. But I have one piece of advice before I go: SHOOT THE F#*%KING PUCK.

f*** you all, Dan Cleary started that whole debacle with another TERRIBLE giveaway on the PP, followed by ANOTHER TERRIBLE ENTIRE TEAM CHANGE.

At least you got your money Howard.

GET DAN ******* CLEARY OFF THIS TEAM f*** f*** f***

That goal sums up our season.

I know I'm a pessimist, but this team is not playing with the urgency required. Looks like they're just skating around out there. Up the ante!

WHY THE #!*#! do you go get Tootoo if you are never going to play him when the guy is needed?

FORECHECK FORECHECK FORECHECK This is how Calgary played us last time too. They routinely have 3 guys high on the forecheck and we can't break it. Even when we do, we lack enough team speed to really make them pay.

Crosby will win the Hart even though Ovechkin deserves it most

Keep him at center. It forces him to be involved instead of floating waiting for a perfect pass. esteef

I really wish we had a goalie that could play the puck. It drives me nuts that Howard can't do it. I used to cut him some slack cause I thought he was just nervous being a young goalie in the big leagues. But my god this kid just flat out sucks at it!

"Some guys score goals and some guys don't. We've got a lot that don't" - Mike Babcock.

One really big surprise this year, for me at least, is just how absolutely horrible Smith has been. I'm not saying he won't develop and become better because I know it is his first year, but he has been very bad IMO, offensively invisible and a defensive liability.

OMG STOP THE DAMN PASSING!!!!!!

"I eat pieces of s*** like you for breakfast" "You eat pieces of s*** for breakfast?" "...no..."

Flip really frustrates me. He could be so effective if he would just go back to basics. I can't tell you how many times I see him deking and dragging all over the place when the simple play is available to him. He's not Datsyuk, as much as he wishes he could be, so just make the sensible play! He's got so many great qualities that are getting lost in complication...Edit: God dammit! Please don't piss this one away.

Aaaaaaaand its ruined.

Yep, IIRC we're sitting 20th at goals for, and 10th at goals against. Our defense isn't the problem, especially when adding DeKeyser to the equation. The boy has helped the back-end more than we really expected. He's even considered as Babcock's final 5. If the offense would start potting them, this team could change pretty dramatically.