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Soooo any actual updates on Brunner?

The increase in concussions is the result of several different factors. When the league returned from the 2005 lockout, they made several rule changes to make the game more entertaining and some of them resulted in more collisions and more violent collisions. They need to roll back some of those rules: 1. Two line passes were allowed. This creates more speed through the neutral zone. 2. The trapezoid rule was added that keep the goalies from playing pucks in the corner which results in opposing players racing into the corner for the puck. 3. There was a crack-down on interference. You can no longer hold-up a player racing to the goal. If the league want to reduce the number of concussions and injuries in general, they need to change these rule back. Trying to enforce rules against hits to the head as we have seen doesn't work. The rule is to subjective. LOL. Try skating up and down the ice wearing a NASCAR Hemet.

Anyone seen the Brunner Contract thread? Coulda sworn I was in it a minute ago...

There is no way 1.9mil for what tootoo brings is over payment. He just needs to be used.

People getting trolled by Bieber is why we can't have nice things.

Glad you "hoping" wasn't right. So glad "for the moment" that Jagr will never wear a Wings jersey.

I don't think I've seen brunner's name within the last 20 posts.

You've totally nailed it. Guys aren't getting head injuries because the "rats" are taking cheap shots. Guys are getting head injuries because the game is 1,000 times faster and therefore they're getting hit a whole lot harder than that (mass times acceleration or something like that). They wanted a faster game and this is one of the negative side effects. On the whole though, I feel like the game is better for it. At the end of the day it's a contact sport and guys are just going to have to learn to play a safer game than they used to. I don't think suspending is the answer any more than I think getting rid of the instigator rule is. Suspensions don't factor into a guy's mind when he's moving that fast, is largely encouraged by his coaches to hit first and ask questions later, and must commit to contact in a split second. Likewise, gooning it up doesn't work because most of these injuries aren't the result of cheap shots, and so the only thing dressing more tough guys is going to do is cost you games. The only way to stop it is to slow down the game, and in doing so you'll lose the speed that is almost entirely responsible for ensuring that NHL hockey is the most intense, physically demanding sport on earth.

I agree with Axe on Quincey, but not on Tootoo. Quincey started bad and finished strong, but once you're a whipping boy around here (and once you're a hometown hero) there's no changing most people's minds. There was ZERO wrong with Quincey's play down the stretch and into the playoffs. Tootoo is another story in my opinion. He was under utilized. I know Bab's had all sorts of quotes about penalty minutes and this and that. But the truth is, both Boston and Chicago dressed at least one guy who was a penalty machine but still brought enough intangibles that they were worth being on the ice. Hell, Abby had 33 PIMs in 12 games. And he didn't score enough to make that worthwhile. Tootoo isn't Boogaard. He didn't play because Babs likes skill more than he likes aggressiveness (in spite of what he says), and once Babs doesn't like a guy it's awfully hard to change his mind. You're not exactly going out on a limb here. He's the highest rated defensive prospect we've got. He's further along the developmental curve mentally, physically, and skill wise than any of our other prospect d-men. Plus, he's projected to have the much higher upside based on his mix of skill and size. It's a little like "gambling" that Mrazek will be a starting goalie, or Mantha a top line forward. The sky would literally have to fall for this to not be true.

Q is signed for thankfully only 1 more year. Just enough time to fast track Sproul, our futurw #1 dman. People can quote me for future reference if anyone thinks I'm out to lunch...but I'm calling it now.

Ok then let's have a conversation about Quincey. Turnover after turnover after bad mistake. The only reason he wasn't in the press box was because we had no one to replace him with. You seriously think he is good then I beg you to get your eyes checked because he was abysmal.

I think he was joking, but it's obvious selection bias to come to an internet forum for discussion of a particular NHL team and remark how popular hockey seems to be around these parts... There IS a problem of waning popularity with the Red Wings in metro Detroit, however. In the late 90's (when it was a very special time to be Red Wings fan), we could look to cities like Boston, Pittsburgh, Chicago, etc. and it was easy to feel like we were "Hockeytown". Those cities have excellent fanbases now. It will be interesting if moving to the East has any impact on the appeal of the team. Detroit was already a fixture with the national media, but will be moreso now that we'll play and compete for position with the likes of NYR, TOR, MTL, BOS, etc. The mid-2000's, unlike the 90's, had us playing a huge chunk of games against recent expansion teams in crappy markets, namely Nashville and Columbus. Who was our biggest "rival" in the 2000's....the Ducks? You could argue it the Hawks later, but they didn't get the upper hand on us until the decade was over. The Penguins "rivalry" only applied to two consecutive finals. Think about East Coast markets that have flourished recently, and all of them have several huge rivalries that seem to matter even when one or both of the teams aren't that great (PHI/PIT, NYR/NJ, NYR/WAS, PIT/WAS, MTL/TOR, etc.) Detroit had nothing like that dating back to Colorado, and I think that really hurt the interest.

That works too, as long as they reduce the impact of shootouts & stop giving points out for losses.

Stepping on the logo is seen as a sign of disrespect for the club.

I just want you all to know that Canadians feel really bad for inflicting this kid upon the world. Toronto, Winnipeg, Chicago, Detroit, Boston, Los Angeles, Philedelphia....all teams he's pretended to support.

What would you think if you saw some other team's fans stomping on a wings jersey in the ground? That they are disrespecting the wheel right? Same thing. Not that it would be a life ruining moment if it were to happen, but its the principal of it. Dont be stupid guys.

logo is in the center of the room to symbolize that it is all that matters (the team), its what bring the players together for the team, its the center of attention. you dont step on it like you dont step on a flag. obviously does no tangable damage, but its the meaning thats significant.

How would a logo on the floor teach you to keep your head up?

They'll meet while filming an episode of Irrelevant Celebrity Douchebags

Or get rid of the instigator rule. Bring back the Proberts and Browns.