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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
HockeytownRay and 2 others reacted to VM1138 for a post in a topic
Helm is one of the best puck hounds and bottom sixers in the game. The problem only arises when he's in the top six, and then the issue of cost and term. -
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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
romagoth and 2 others reacted to UpstateNYRedWingsFan for a post in a topic
He said play top 6 "in a pinch" and then said he needs to agree to play bottom 6 role strictly. You turned what he said around hard. -
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Wings hire John Torchetti as 2nd Assistant
krsmith17 and one other reacted to HockeytownRules19 for a post in a topic
Detroit Red Wings @DetroitRedWings 2m2 minutes ago UPDATE: #RedWings EVP & GM Ken Holland announced today that the team has hired John Torchetti as an assistant coach. -
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Wings hire John Torchetti as 2nd Assistant
Hey man nice shot! and one other reacted to Andy Pred 48 for a post in a topic
Radulov's old coach eh !? -
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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
Detroit # 1 Fan and one other reacted to Datsyukian-Deke for a post in a topic
As far as the Helm vs. Miller discussion goes I say let them both walk. Use the cap you save on a player that actually helps the team and fill their roles with the younger guys trying to make the team. -
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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
MrazekFanBoy and one other reacted to BinMucker94 for a post in a topic
I can't believe anyone could talk trash about Helm not having hands, or puck possession skills and the defend Miller's game. He has ZERO ability to hold on to the puck and make plays. Plus he's slow. Can't even dump and chase. On his best shift he dumps the puck and changes. -
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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
romagoth and one other reacted to krsmith17 for a post in a topic
Yes, everyone that thinks Helm is a very good bottom 6 forward is actually Helm in disguise. In fact, Helm has already been gone for a full season. He left for Toronto for whopping $50M last spring. No wait, wasn't Helm the guy that coached the Red Wings into the playoffs last season? Or was he that guy leaving for Russia known as the "Magic Man"? Or maybe he's that bald guy with glasses that knows everything hockey related between the glass on NBC?... I'm so confused, there are way too many Darren Helm's... No matter how many times you say "Helm sucks", it's not going to make it true... Pretty much every advanced stat out there proves you wrong. But year, keep beating that drum, you obviously know better than NHL GM's, coaches, players, analysts, and the majority of fans... Although, Id prefer to get him locked up for under $3M, he absolutely is worth every bit of 3, and he will get that or more whether he signs here or elsewhere this summer... -
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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
Detroit # 1 Fan and one other reacted to BinMucker94 for a post in a topic
The only way Miller helps this team is if he gets hurt and one of the younger players gets a shot. -
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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
romagoth and one other reacted to Detroit # 1 Fan for a post in a topic
I don't want either of them back to be honest, but some of the things being said about Miller... lol. The guy is a plug, plain and simple. Average PKer, boat anchor at 5on5, not a speedy player to begin with coming off a major knee injury, and a non-physical 4th liner. I blame Kenny for this, only he would have fans arguing over plugs coming back over and over -
1 pointMaybe Helm is the most underrated player on this team now.
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Wings hire John Torchetti as 2nd Assistant
krsmith17 reacted to Detroit # 1 Fan for a post in a topic
The right choice based on who was available. Now onto making the team better! -
1 pointWanted Richards but this is other good viable option Let's hope he turns things around
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Wings hire John Torchetti as 2nd Assistant
krsmith17 reacted to Son of a Wing for a post in a topic
Awesome. Now let's focus on the draft and free agents. -
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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
poel reacted to DickieDunn for a post in a topic
Define "3rd line." Is it your third best line? Your checking shut down D line? Helm isn't big enough to play like Abdelkader, and can't pass, shoot, or stick handle well enough to be productive in any other role. That's not a $3 mil player. Blashcock wants his check line to play safe, boring hockey. That's why you get guys like Miller and Glendening on cheap short term deals and when you get a kid who shows he can do that job effectively, you let the vet go. A $3 mil player doing that is a waste of cap space. -
1 pointDarren Helm had less turnovers than Pavel Datsyuk and Zetterberg last season lol. On the contrary, I'd say you need Helm more than Miller. Helm is a centerman that can play wing, Miller can't play center. What exactly does Miller do that Helm can't? Block shots? Blocking shots shouldn't be a reason to keep someone on your roster. AA is our replacement for Helm not Miller. Our replacement for Miller would be someone like Callahan or Bertuzzi from GR. Looking at the numbers here, Helm throws more hits than Miller, he scores more goals, he has more assists and points per game, he has far greater possession metrics. Helm has 9 career short handed goals to Miller's 3. Almost every aspect of the game, whether it's offense or defense aside Helm is better than Miller. Except blocking shots. Also Helm is the fastest skater on the team. Miller isn't even close. Helm is just better plain and simple lol. And my references are - http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/helmda01.html http://espn.go.com/nhl/player/_/id/3521/darren-helm https://puckalytics.com/skatercorsistats.html
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2016 SCF: San Jose Sharks vs. Pittsburgh Penguins
Cali-Wing-Nut reacted to brett for a post in a topic
last game of the season tonight -
1 pointIf Radulov is honestly looking for 7.5 million/yr for 2 years as the rumors are floating around he and his agent are out of their minds.
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1 pointAgree with a top pairing two way D man.. But I think a pure goal scoring forward is a very close second.
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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread
Internet.Unknown reacted to LeftWinger for a post in a topic
Helm should go, hopefully they offered him something like $3M. We don't need him. I'd rather keep AA and Mantha all season long. -
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Biggest need for Red Wings in Off-season Poll
13dangledangle reacted to GMRwings1983 for a post in a topic
In the past, this poll would be easy. Back then, we were good and were missing a piece or two. Now we need at least 4 of those categories. Maybe all 5, but we likely don't need any defensive defensemen (though an upgrade over what we have would be nice). But all the other categories we badly need to upgrade. I didn't vote because I can't decide what the biggest need is. I'm leaning towards offensive defenseman, because your offense starts from the blue line. -
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2016 SCF: San Jose Sharks vs. Pittsburgh Penguins
MrazekFanBoy reacted to xtrememachine1 for a post in a topic
Yes, they are, unfortunately. Murray was a beast in the AHL and he had a couple good games in the NHL before Fleury got injured. I was really hoping Murray would stay buried in the depth chart. Lots of young speedsters, superstars and a good strategy will keep them up there for awhile, I think. However, this is a copycat league and teams will see the Pens success and try to copy it by putting together a speedy team that applies tons of offensive pressure. If the Pens face someone like them or simply just anyone that can disrupt their constant flow of offensive pressure, they'll have a harder time winning games. -
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State your unpopular opinion *Mod Warning Post #'s 200 & 219*
jimmyemeryhunter reacted to NerveDamage for a post in a topic
I guess Prince and Bowie will be performing -
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Random Discussion Thread
puckloo39 reacted to NerveDamage for a post in a topic
For the LAY-DEEZ! ...How 'bout them Tatar Tots? -
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Alexander Radulov: Wings on short-list of desired teams
MrazekFanBoy reacted to Datsyukian-Deke for a post in a topic
I thought Radulov had grown up and it wasn't about the money? If he is truly asking for 7.5 mill then I don't think he has actually "matured." Time to find some other tires to kick. -
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