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  1. 2 points
    ...but it has to be consensual did anyone see the two KHL coaches fight? http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/watch-khl-coaches-fight-between-benches-during-pre-season-game/
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  3. 2 points
    kickazz

    Red Wings All-Bust Roster

    Whoever thinks Cleary was a bust probably has zero clue what "bust" means. And is likely equating typical "I hate Dan Cleary" narrative with the concept of being a "bust". Aside from winning a Stanley cup with us he also scored the OT game winner against Anaheim in 2009. Not to mention he had two 20 goal seasons, a 26 goal season and scored more points than Datsyuk did in the playoffs at least 3 different times. Also scored more goals than Zetterberg did in 2011. So it's not even "efforts". He actually produced better than our star players did at times. And not just one time. Multiple times. His last playoffs with the Red Wings was in 2012-2013 where he scored 4 goals and 10 points whereas Dats scored 3 goals 9 points. Both played exactly 14 games. So lol. Can't believe I just had to defend Dan Cleary. He might have been a washed up player for the last 3 or 4 years who no longer belonged in the line up, but the guy was no bust. He made a career here when the Red Wings gave him a chance. And he won a Stanley cup in the process. Not many people in the league can say that about themselves. And not many teams can say that about other players they give opportunities to. Usually when a team gives a chance to a player whose career is falling apart or declining, they end up being a bust. Not Dan Cleary though. That guy ended up winning a Stanley cup, recovering his falling career and went onto play 10 more seasons with a successful franchise.
  4. 1 point
    Gamecenter + https://www.unblock-us.com/ = legit streaming option with no blackouts ever. Takes 5 minutes to setup for the year. Last I heard hockeystreams is shut down. Since it was a non legit site all those people that gave them money got nothing in return.
  5. 1 point
    Jersey Wing

    Red Wings All-Bust Roster

    Ranford
  6. 1 point
    Tatar, Nyquist, Larkin, Zetterberg, Mrazek and Nielsen are all on the top 200 list that he linked. It's just that no one is top 50 like Zet and Pav used to be I think.
  7. 1 point
    And he did, with a lot of hugging... Ott was never a tough guy. He routinely got his ass kicked by guys who could actually fight. He was an antagonist and, in his prime, a good checker. Not sure what he brings to Detroit at this stage of his career.
  8. 1 point
    krsmith17

    Red Wings All-Bust Roster

    First of all, I never said I'm "writing off Saarijarvi". I was simply replying to GMR's post "name a current highly thought of prospect that will be on this list in 20 years"... Based on that, Saarijarvi would be my pick. I think Saarijarvi is much more likely to become a bust than Svechnikov, which was another player mentioned. If you think Saarijarvi is going to become a stud, good for you, but was there really any need in the insults? I wasn't "wrong" about Smith, I've always said he will become a legit top 4, puck moving defenseman, which is exactly what he is. The jury is still out on Jurco and Sproul, but both are just 23 years old, and still likely to become impact NHL players. I still think Jurco will be a legit middle 6 skilled winger, and Sproul will be a legit top 4 defenseman, much like Smith. Whether that's with Detroit or another team is yet to be determined... As for Larkin, I did want to him to start in Grand Rapids, but what exactly was I "wrong" about? I knew he was going to be a stud. Do you actually think that ripping up the American League for a year would have stunted his development? Larkin is a special player, and if he started in Grand Rapids, it would have been no time before he got a call-up anyway...
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    kliq

    Red Wings All-Bust Roster

    When over half the people on this board wanted us to trade Larkin for Myers a year and a half ago, he is the one who was telling everyone that Larkin was the real deal. I am guessing that you are making this statement based on Jurco, who was mismanaged as he was rushed to the roster.
  10. 1 point
    So he'd fit in nicely in Detroit.
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    At first I thought it was a dick move on his part (and still do) to bail on the last year of his contract so he could "go home to his family", and then turn around and sign with a team 8-10 hours away from them, but it didn't turn out too bad in the end. His play was declining, he didn't want to play in Detroit anymore so he may have just half assed it out there this season anyways, Holland traded his cap hit and signed Nielson and Vanek, so it's not a big deal to me anymore. The show must go on.
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    It'll be nice to have Ott around to help him this season, so maybe he won't have to f*** up his hand again defending all the ******* on the team. Would be a bonus if Errorsson made himself useful in that capacity as well, since he makes a bundle for doing nothing.
  13. 1 point
    Yeah, pretty much same "toughness"... this is like us playing against the Habs and Plekanec is enforcing the Wings
  14. 1 point
    Like everything I guess the more people that become aware of Reddit:NHLstreams the more often they are taken down mid game. This whole past season it was my go to and without a flaw 95% were Youtube streams (the best IMO) but in the last month of the season it seemed that NHL became savvy to it and started shutting them down on the regular. Point still remains that there needs to be a legal way to stream games consistently from where ever we may be.
  15. 1 point
    Was that Detroit Red Wings out there?
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    That's a bit strong, IMO. I still think Pavel was an outstanding player even compared to past Wings greats, and should be recognized as such. I just dislike his (or more likely his advisors) attempt to sugarcoat his decision to quit the NHL while still more or less on top. Just say it like it is: I can't play at a level I am used to, so I am moving to an easier league. Don't feed us bullcrap about "family" when it was clearly not the deciding factor at all.
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    This is actually a very logical post that hopefully ends the posts claiming: "OMG it's not 30 hours away people, don't you guys get that airplanes are way faster than cars". Thanks for the helpful insight. So instead of a 30 hour drive in his AvtoVAZ, he's actually only an 8 hour travel commitment away from his daughter - which means his excuse (to walk out on a commitment in which he was contractually obligated to fulfil) that has everyone siding with him, is actually bull$***. Truth be told, he has 2-3 good years of hockey left and probably wants to win something before he's done. He picked a team in Russia that paid him a reasonable base salary (packed with performance based incentives I'm sure) with a good chance to win and never looked back. Who can fault him for doing something he'd rather do, right? Unfortunately that's why multi-million dollar contracts exist... To prevent people from doing something they feel like doing more, because they don't really feel like doing the first thing anymore, that much. Great player, great career - but I stand by what Ive said so many times - he handled his departure worse than any other notable Detroit Red Wing, and shouldn't be recognized much moving forward.
  18. 1 point
    Dabura

    AA

    In theory, yes, it is. But the Red Wings take it to a ridiculous extreme. We are (or, at least, should be) a team in transition, not a perennial contender. Overripening is something we need to be moving away from. What we've seen with Jurco -- and the fourth line in general -- is boneheaded usage. I'm ok with using Jurco on the fourth line if we're trying to roll four scoring lines. I'm not ok with slotting Jurco on a line with Miller and Glendening. I'm not ok with using the fourth line as a sacrificial "shutdown" line (i.e. we hard-match it against the best players in the league) when its centerman is Luke Glendening and one of its wingers is a redundant grinderbangershotblockerpenaltykiller. Our fourth line could be Jurco-Athanasiou-Mantha and we could roll four dangerous lines. Ideally, at least two of those players are playing higher in the lineup -- but, point is, we need to rethink everything we think we know about a professional hockey team's fourth line. We need to stop associating fourth lines with grinding and banging and killing penalties and trying to shut down Sidney Crosby and Patrick Kane and Connor McDavid. Fourth lines are allowed to be scoring threats. You don't (necessarily) need a "defensive fourth line with real good defensive players and real good defensive defensiveness." http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/news/la-kings-news-darryl-sutter-quotes-corsi-for-definition-sidney-crosby/1ty2k6440ww8213spqckr4u09n "The big thing in today’s game is you have to be able forecheck and backcheck, and you have to have the puck," Sutter said over the weekend (h/t Ryan Lambert). "You can’t give the puck up. We don’t play in our zone, so there’s not much defending." The numbers back him up. LA takes 56.9 percent of all even-strength shot attempts in their games, an effective way to measure puck possession. That's more than any team in the league. Last season, the Kings were at 58 percent. That was more than any team in the league. In 2011-12, they were at 54.9 percent. That was less than only the Pittsburgh Penguins — and the Kings wound up winning the Stanley Cup. So, Sutter would seem to be an authority on the topic: Don't mistake dominance for "defensive responsibility" or physicality. Having the puck is the most important part of the game. “I’ve coached in three decades now and this stuff where they said Marian had to play in (former Minnesota Wild coach Jacques) Lemaire's system is a bunch of bullcrap," Sutter said. "The game’s changed. They think there’s defending in today’s game. Nah, it’s how much you have the puck. Teams that play around in their own zone (say) they’re defending but they’re generally getting scored on or taking face-offs and they need a goalie to stand on his head if that’s the way they play,” said Sutter. Add that to from Edmonton Oilers coach Dallas Eakins earlier this season: "You know what the perfect game is? The perfect game is no hits. You know why that is? It's because you have the puck. You don't have to hit anybody. You have the puck." And this from a member of Team Canada's gold-medal winning team: "Our defense were pretty good at skating themselves out of trouble, but I think everyone talks about our defensive play — we just have the puck for most of the game. I think we possessed the puck, and we were able to control the puck a lot in the offensive zone. When you do that, teams don't get a lot of time or energy to come against you. "Defensively, there's no doubt that we backtracked really hard when we needed to, but I think that's something that's preached on every team and something that's important to every team winning. … I think on the flipside, you see the effect that playing the offensive zone has, and you want to make sure that that's something you continue to do (in the NHL)." That was Sidney Crosby. On the other end of the spectrum, you have the Wings, who are obsessed with "defensive responsibility" and "being able to play without the puck" and having "grit" and being able to block shots and kill penalties and *bangs head on table repeatedly*. The Wings used to be all about high-end skill. Now they're all about blue-collar blue-collarness. And they wonder why we can't put the puck in the net. I've actually defended the front office on these very grounds (albeit, in a devil's advocate way). But, lately, I'm really starting to question The Plan. It sounds great in theory, and, sure, you can point to a supporting piece of evidence here and there. But, really, what you're saying is "Have blind faith in Team Holland and everything will be ok. You don't understand now, but one day you will." Which is 1) almost more pretentious than anything that even I would say, 2) somewhat ignorant of recent history, and 3) wonderfully trusting (bordering on naive). Ken Holland is the general manager. Jeff Blashill is the head coach. Jeff Blashill works for Ken Holland. A couple years ago Mike Babcock wanted Xavier Ouellet on the opening night roster. Babcock said that if it were up to him, Ouellet would be on the opening night roster, but he -- Babcock -- was allowed to cast only one vote, while Ken Holland was allowed to cast "two." Babcock's point being, Ken Holland has the first and final say in anything and everything personnel-related and Ken Holland knows it. And this, to me, is a problem, because it's Ken Holland, whose way of doing things represents and perpetuates everything that's wrong with the Red Wings today. He is an arrogant dinosaur who is struggling mightily to reconcile his way of doing things with the harsh realities of the cap era. As a result, we haven't won a damn thing in close to a decade, and right now we're probably at least three years away from being a serious contender. The Wings, under Ken Holland, are all about treading water, selling tickets, getting a little bit of playoff revenue, and then repeating the whole cycle again. They're about maintaining the status quo, not truly moving forward. I'd totally forgotten about Street. Good call. Still, y'know what I'm saying.
  19. 1 point
    Jacksoni

    Red Wings All-Bust Roster

    I don't want no Cleary on this list. Old boy Danny should get a pass for his efforts.