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  1. 3 points
    Learn2LuvIt

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    Kinda dumb piece. It's like documenting the collapse of your washing machine. So great at first, but WHAT!!!!....after 20 years it breaks????! Preposterous!!! Moving on.
  2. 2 points
    Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2019 Draft

    1. The whole comparing players and their draft positions is a fool's errand. If a guy drafted in the 3rd round turns into a 90 point player and a guy drafted in the top 10 turns into a 70 point player, does that make the 1st rounder a bust? That's silly reasoning IMO. 2. What are reasonable expectations for Zadina? I would argue a 30 goal/ 60 point player is reasonable IMO. If he becomes a 70 point or PPG guy, that's a bonus for me. Has anyone really seen enough at this point to say, with any reasonable argument, that he won't become that? I haven't. So let's be real, and wait for real evidence (not conjecture) before we declare anything, shall we? 3. Players develop at different rates. Comparing Zadina to Larkin is completely ridiculous. Some guys make the NHL right from the draft and never become more than average NHLers. They peaked sooner and everyone expected them to continue to progress. Other guys flounder in juniors, overseas, and/or the AHL for a couple seasons and manage to develop into superstars. They're late bloomers. Every guy is different. Comparisons are inaccurate and unfair. FiFY. Maybe he should filiPinch them.
  3. 2 points
    Wheelchairsuperhero

    2019 Draft

    To be disappointed that Zadina didn't light up the AHL and get a call up to be full time for the Wings is totally reasonable. I wish that would've happened too. However: Nailed it.
  4. 2 points
    krsmith17

    2019 Draft

    Larkin was a steal in his draft. If there were a 2014 re-draft, he would be a top 5, possibly top 3 pick. In saying that, I agree that Larkin should be used as somewhat of a measuring stick for our future stars. However, just because Zadina isn't where Larkin was at the same age, doesn't mean s*** to me. Zadina could still be as good or better in 2-3 years time. I'm not saying he will be, or even that I think he will be, just that he could be. Larkin and Zadina have taken completely different paths to get to the NHL, so why should we expect the same results right out of the gate? And who's to say, Zadina wouldn't have had similar numbers if he played a full season in the NHL? I watched quite a few Griffins games this past season, and I know for a fact that Zadina was often a victim of circumstance. I lost count of the number of times he made plays that his lines mates couldn't finish, or he was in the right place, and his linemates couldn't get him the puck. Maybe if he played a full season with Larkin (Zetterberg) in the NHL, he would have put up better numbers. Who knows? Either way, to call Zadina a bust after one season is beyond f***ing stupid in my opinion...
  5. 1 point
    krsmith17

    2019 Draft

    No.
  6. 1 point
    SwedeLundin77

    2019 Draft

    Interesting... this topic is 2019 Draft.... yet there is a WHOLE lot of talk about the 2018 Draft... Get back on the topic already.
  7. 1 point
    Neomaxizoomdweebie

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    No. It would be called "Kicking Tires in the Motor City"
  8. 1 point
    GMRwings1983

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    Holland should write a book titled "What Happened?"
  9. 1 point
    nyqvististhefuture

    2019 Draft

    If he’s a bust Rasmussen is the next pat Falloon ... fa who? Exactly
  10. 1 point
    ChristopherReevesLegs

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    Exactly. The Illitch's essentially chose Holland the first time around. 9 years later they changed their mind.
  11. 1 point
    ChristopherReevesLegs

    2019 Draft

    Zadina is lazy and he busts
  12. 1 point
    ChristopherReevesLegs

    2019 Draft

    So it means he had a disappointing first season. I'm not in the habit of sticking my head in the sand when a player has a bad season relative to expectations just because he might one day be better. And I don't think it's as "dumb" or "******* stupid" as some of you seem to think it is to express concern about it. 35 pts and -17 in the AHL does not meet the standards I have for a supposed future star of this team, even in his first season. Simple as that. I'm expecting a much bigger second season out of him. If he can make the team and contribute 30-50 pts next season I would be happy, or if he can dominate the AHL and put up like 50-70 pts I'd feel better. He's got to get his plus/minus up to. It's not my primary concern, but his is shockingly bad. By far the worst in that stat on the team. 1257 players played in the AHL last year. Zadina ranked 1224 in plus/minus. Yikes. No that's what I think is likely based on what I've seen so far. His floor is idk, 30 pt winger? But I think that's unlikley His ceiling is probably like 80 pts... at least that's what I thought when we drafted him.
  13. 1 point
    Learn2LuvIt

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    Maybe. As said by Jonas I don't remember hearing anything at all publicly about this. IMO-Hard to think that Holland could have blocked anything from the owner of the team and a guy as hands-on as Illitch. What leverage would Holland have and why would Illitch even need his approval to do what we wanted to do?
  14. 1 point
    gcom007

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    “Collapse” may be an oversimplification, but the suggestion that more could’ve been done to prevent things from getting so bad is not off the mark. Holland did in fact make a lot of bad moves over the last ten years and failed to react in a timely manner far too often. I’m not saying that a decline of some sort isn’t inevitable at some point, but Holland did plenty to usher the process along after 2009. What I don’t recall though was the part about Illitch wanting Yzerman to take over as GM before he went to Tampa and Holland blocking it. Was that in the news way back when or did it come out recently, or is it speculation?
  15. 1 point
    toby91_ca

    2019 Draft

    Not missing your point at all. Age is not the major factor here. I guarantee you, GMs, coaches, etc. do not look at age to determine readiness. You need to consider experience and at what level of hockey. The better comparison is really to look at where a player has progressed since being drafted.
  16. 1 point
    ChristopherReevesLegs

    2019 Draft

    you are a true gentlemen
  17. 1 point
    Wheelchairsuperhero

    2019 Draft

    Same. I'm still pretty confident though.
  18. 1 point
    Jonas Mahonas

    2019 Draft

    Z-Pinch will be good. Dude still has zits. Give him a break already.
  19. 1 point
    Hockeymom1960

    ECF- CAR vs. BOS

    Well all I know if it's SJ and BOS and Boston wins which I'm predicting.....yawn!
  20. 1 point
    Wheelchairsuperhero

    2019 Draft

    You're a legendary troll, the whole victim thing you got going on right now is good stuff. How so? You think Zadina's a bust after one season, that's stupid.
  21. 1 point
    HoweFan

    2019 Draft

    The first two are obvious. It looks like Bowen has cemented himself into the three spot with a great playoff. I haven't heard anything negative about Turcotte for a while so he goes four or five. I have a hunch Dach goes next. That leaves Cozins or Podkolzin for us. I like Cozins
  22. 1 point
    Neomaxizoomdweebie

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    And like a washing machine, people would praise the manufacturer for it lasting so long. Only haters of that particular brand would poo poo on it.
  23. 1 point
    Neomaxizoomdweebie

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    I would call it a decline. It was inevitable. No dynasty lasts forever. I dont get why this team, going thru the same cycle as everyone else, is fodder for the masses.
  24. 1 point
    chaps80

    ECF- CAR vs. BOS

    Oh man, if they could pull it out in 7 that would be a heavy burn, but that's pretty unlikely. Never say never, I guess. If Boston plays SJ or STL, doesn't matter as long as they win their franchise first cup by beating Boston. The Thornton storyline would be cool. He doesn't look like he's got much left in him. Let the man finally raise one and retire.
  25. 0 points
    Jonas Mahonas

    2019 Draft

    Damn it, Krs. You were doing good.