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  1. 4 points
    I think some of you guys are way too short sighted and/or don't know how asset management works, specifically when it involves players. As an example: Daley is worth a 5th round pick. As much as people thinks he sucks, he's still a veteran NHL defenseman, which has some value. If no one is interested in trading a 5th for him, you have 2 options. 1: Stand pat and hold on to him. Or 2: trade him for a lesser value. A lot of you would choose the latter. Trade all the past-their-prime vets for peanuts if you have to. Just get rid of them. There's one problem with that. Yzerman would develop a bad reputation among the players. In 5 years or so when this team needs to acquire better players thru free agency or trade, why would they want to come here? A big name player may fear signing a big contract to play in Detroit out of fear that Yzerman will just dump him for a bag of pucks once his play no longer matches his pay, which often happens towards the end of long term contracts. As a result, players with NMC may refuse a trade to come here. UFAs may insist on a NMC in their contract because they don't trust Yzerman not to do that to them as well. They may demand more money or just not sign with the Wings at all. How does that benefit the long term success of this team at all? Players are not lifeless objects. They're human beings. The more you treat them like "things" and less like people, the less likely they are to want to work for you. That's not to say that a GM should be a pushover, a good GM isn't. But you have to be able to juggle what's best for the team with what's best for the players. And getting a 7th round draft pick for guys like Daley would be insulting, and the short term benefit to the team wouldn't be worth it in the long run.
  2. 2 points
    kliq

    Are these press conferences necessary?

    Press conferences are simply about PR, I have never really cared about what a GM says during one and I likely never will. I never understood why some get all worked up from them.
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  4. 1 point
    Cap dumps are also done over the summer when teams need to unload contracts to make room for new player acquisitions. Might make sense to re-up the RFAs first, then take on some salary dumps once you know what your cap space is.
  5. 1 point
    Neomaxizoomdweebie

    AA traded to oilers

    Yeah. His 10 goals will be missed immensely. Apparently being so bad at defense that ur on the ice for 55 goals against is completely cool as long as you score 10 really flashy goals. LGW.com logic.
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  7. 1 point
    The actual conference was pretty boring and nothing interesting was said. Just empty words, trust the plan, be patient, stuff. What can you really expect though? A smart guy is never gonna reveal much of what's behind the curtain. I don't remember Yzerman ever really being a standout media guy. He's pretty much the same way now. Pretty boring to listen to. Holland wasn't any better. It's whatever.
  8. 1 point
    Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2020 Draft Thread

    Yep. We're guaranteed a top 4 pick. And if we don't get Lafreniere, there's 3 other guys I am very excited about.
  9. 1 point
    You're assuming that going to a "better" team is always in the best interest of the player, or what the player will want. That's not always the case. Some guys don't want to be traded to greener pastures. A lot of veteran players have established strong ties to the cities they're living in. It may not be worth it to them to uproot their families for a mild chance at winning a Cup somewhere else. Especially if they've already won. They may prefer to stay where they are. That might be one of those times where it's smarter for a GM to do what's right by the player rather than get a very small asset for his team.
  10. 1 point
    ChristopherReevesLegs

    Visiting Fan

    I always view this place as kind of a "trap" so to speak. It's always crowded AF and I assume the food is like Apple Bees quality (I never ate there). But I guess if you wanna do Red Wings stuff it probably makes sense.
  11. 1 point
    Neomaxizoomdweebie

    AA traded to oilers

    AA is literally in the best situation he could be in. He's one of the few guys in the NHL who can keep up with McDavid's speed. If AA gets an opportunity to play on his wing, he would be crazy not to stay there, even if its for less money than he wants initially. The enormous boost to his stats will more than pay off for him in the long run. His D will be much less of a concern to Holland too. AA is there for his speed and if he can get back to 30 goals or more, I don't think it will matter to anyone if he plays a 2 way game or not.
  12. 1 point
    The minimum return I wanted was a 2nd and a prospect. Two seconds is close enough to that
  13. 1 point
    Point being, the deals were beatable. And if the cost of an asset was a player, pick, money, or combination, I would think money alone would be the best. Because, guess what? The player costs money either way. The floor and ceiling are not far apart. Especially when the ROI could be ticket prices, merchandise, advertising, etc. Which comes from the PLAYER.
  14. 1 point
    That's quite a few presumptions Incorrect. We did have a young winger to move: Athanasiou. We also had Fabbri, Mantha, Bertuzzi who are all on expiring contracts and could be moved. You don't know that in the slightest You also don't know that Why would they limit themselves to one move? And if they did, how does that benefit them at all? Keep beating this drum, but again, no, they are not "very rare". They happen multiple times a season every season.
  15. 1 point
    I hear this every year, and I don't agree. Every GM has tolerances. More or less risk that they're willing to assume. A conservative GM makes fewer moves with the same roster as a risk taker, in theory. Some GMs would never, ever, ever, trade a 70 point player (Holland). Some would trade them for Tyler Seguin (Nill). Some would trade them for Adam Larsson (Chiarelli). Seems like Yzerman, so far, has very low risk tolerances. He even said today in his presser that every player has some kind of value at the deadline, and yet he only made two deals. The fact that he didn't trade a Glendening, Helm, Bernier, or Fabbri DOES NOT mean that there was no market for them. It could mean a few other things too. Maybe the market was weak and they have more value to your team. Maybe you're scared to trade a better than average player. Maybe you weren't willing to pair them with a prospect or pick to get a more valuable asset. I don't know the story with Yzerman, but I do know that pairing Barclay Goodrow with a 3rd round pick was worth a 1st rounder today. What's Fabbri and a 2nd get you? Glendening and a decent prospect?
  16. 1 point
    "Fr - end" Ho ho, that is brilliant sir
  17. 1 point
    Because this is a business too, you want to become competitive as soon as possible to maintain the fan base. You also don't want to build a culture of losing. I mean really, did people want us to ship off Bert/Larkin/Mantha this deadline? And finish last in the standings for the next 5 seasons. NO Can't do your first point, see comment above. Just because we have cap space, doesn't mean other teams want to trade picks or prospects to alleviate themselves of bad contracts. Do you realize that A LOT of teams have cap space at the deadline and there weren't any straight 1st round picks or valuable prospects traded to dump contracts. Teams would rather buyout a player or just eat his contract unless it becomes absolutely necessary to make a dramatic move...but these types of moves are RARE. It takes two to tango. Again, I am so sick and tired of this "why didn't we take bad contracts" line. These types of moves are not made because teams only move picks or high value prospects in extremely desperate situations. These are rare trades. I'm certain that if a GM showed interest in giving Yzerman a first if he takes a bad contract, he would have done it in a second. But so would a lot of other teams.
  18. 1 point
    Yzerman, like Holland, is not a magician. He can't make trades appear out of nowhere. There has to be interest from other teams. And no, he shouldnt just trade players for whatever he can get. This isnt a "Going Out of Business" Sale. Assets have value, and if he isn't getting a decent return, he shouldn't just trade them just for the h*** of it. Makes you wonder: after 2 different GM's aren't able to get decent returns for our scraps, that maybe , just maybe, LGW.com is being a little too demanding and need to lower their expectations.
  19. 1 point
    kliq

    AA traded to oilers

    Not that I want to trade any of these guys, but I'm pretty sure Mantha, Zadina, Hronek, and Seider could all get a first. Maybe even Bertuzzi.
  20. 1 point
    What else can you possibly do with a trash team with mostly trash contracts. Draft is the only way back to the top. Once the team is a bit more competitive, then you can start trading to fill the gaps but for now, it really is all about the draft.
  21. 1 point
    ChristopherReevesLegs

    AA traded to oilers

    Daley and Bowey will be gone in July and then the team will be pure once again
  22. 1 point
    marcaractac

    AA traded to oilers

    Your expectations were too high
  23. 1 point
    LOL I was wondering if anyone else remembered him. He actually made me hate the Wild.
  24. 1 point
    if Parise gets traded,then all the hype back in 12 was all for nothing! Too fricking funny! Now, with Suter having his verbal agreement with Detroit, and then ultimately getting convinced to pick Minny, you have to wonder if we could've won something between then and now with Suter as out top D. We had a pretty damn good team in 2012-2013. If Suter had signed here, our D would not had crapped out so quickly, maybe things here would'v been different and Suter might have had better results when it comes to playoffs and possible Cups. Where is @centcougar when we need him!?!
  25. 1 point
    Green was never gonna get us anything. He is damaged goods at this point. At this stage, Green is very much a player where you simply accept the highest bid. He also had a modified NTC, which typically reduces any potential return.