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Ovie missed almost 2 full seasons of prime/semi-prime scoring because of lockouts and covid. Any Wayniacs that wanna count his 46 will have to account for that. Give Ovie two full seasons of scoring and he's probably got 100 more goals right now and nobody would be talking about IF he breaks the record, but when. Greatest goal scorer the game has ever seen.

I have a hard time with this pile on. The kid admitted a mistake he has paid for it, he has done the time etc. We give everyone else a break/second chance. That CNN guy that was jacking off on Zoom in front of colleagues is back on the air. Yet this 17/18 old kid with his whole life/career who said he did wrong doesn't catch a break? I think Marc choosing him was huge and I think the kid is going to be Sunday School clean for a long time and bust his ass to reward the faith in him. Plus Habs will have someone working with him etc.

Taking on contracts nobody wants is the only way they can ice a full roster

Suter could be a good fit behind Larkin. Former linemate of Bertuzzi and Fabbri in Guelph...

With our D pipeline, I wouldn't really say we're screwed. I guess I feel we're still to center depth-starved for such a trade to make sense right now. If it was Bert going the other way, I'd see it differently, as it's easy to see Bert as a guy who is probably a little too old for his style of play to fit in the rebuild timeline. I'd like to see what Zadina amounts to. If he can break out a little bit on offense, he will have more value than many of our current wingers. I also think 2023 is too soon to be trading first round picks. That is something that should only happen when flirting with cup contention.

That probably gets it done, and it's something that we could live though I'd rather Bert be going the other way. Zadina is a pretty good player, but redundant with Vrana, Raymond, Fabbri, and Berggren in the depth chart. McIsaac is probably going to be decent, but we don't need him with Edvinsson, Johansson, and Wallinder on the left side along with Werenski. I'd do it.

Interesting that they have all three of "Marcus" Raymond, Berggren and Veleno on their projected lineup...

This is a player I really hope Yzerman focuses on. He even fits the rebuild age!

As a Canadian, if any idiots cry about the WHA, throw the lockout lost season, the lockout shortened season, the COVID shortened seasons right back at them. Ovie lost about 100 goals on that alone (based on career scoring rate).

I'd still take a #4 pick + Zadina over Werenski. I just feel this is a move you make when you're a really good team with a hole in the top 4. Not when your roster is littered with them.

You could do this, but I don't think it's necessary to protect the 2023 pick at all. Presumably if you're adding Seider, Werenski, Raymond, and Berggren over the next two years, plus your growth from guys like Veleno and Rasmussen, plus any other trades/ufa signings, you're going to be good enough to not worry too much about winning the lottery. I think Columbus pulls the trigger on this without any protections on the 1st. I also think they probably do it without the 2nd as well.

Yeah, then we win the lottery in 2023 and Columbus gets Bedard. Doh! I guess I just don't see the point of trading so much for a guy while we still suck, when we can get him for free in 2 years when we're getting good.

You know what we could do to even sweetin the deal more? With that lottery protected 2023 1st, we could put in a clause that IF we win the 1st overall in 2022, the lottery protection for 2023 goes away. Once we get Shane Wright, is doesn't matter for 2023, they can have whatever we get then. to DET : Zach Werenski to CBJ : Filip Zadina, Jared McIsaac, 2022 2nd round pick, 2023 1st rnd conditional pick (lottery protected unless Detroit wins #1 OA in 2022)

Zadina, MacIsaac, 2022 2nd, 2023 lotto protected 1st.

Me too ... Well Martinez is gonna re-sign with Vegas. UFA starts tomorrow...Grand Master Y will start by making the entire Caps org and it's fanbase choke on their soy lattes...

Papa, teach me baseball!

While I am not so sure Zadina is a bust, I think Yzerman should trade him while he is still projected to be good. He may get better...but...he may get worse. I have nothing against him, though I will always wish we has drafted a D instead.

The deal is fine... 1 year as a mentor... we need to avoid multiple years to old guys at this point. The NMC is peace of mind for him and he's earned that IMHO with his play last year.

Barky gets an idea: