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OU SHUT UP FAT GUY WHO TALKED DURING YZERMAN'S PRESS CONFERENCE AND HOPED YZERMAN WOULD SPEND AS LONG IN THE LIGHTNING ORGANIZATION AS HE HAS IN THE RED WINGS'S ORGANIZATION

Sad for us, but awesome from Stevie. I'm sure he'll do a great job, and maybe come back to GM here for the wings later. Excited to see what he does.

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Probably a second Blueadams account or something. Lilja has played like 25 games since coming back. I'd wait before you say he's not a physical player anymore.

If we could get Plekanec could be had for 3-3.5, then I'd love to take him over Bertuzzi. Bertuzzi is not a top 6 player IMO.

I want the West to win it. I'd be happy to see either team win. Chicago because I love Hossa and the Sharks because they deserve it.

You are so stupid mindfly. It's truly unbelievable. You really think if Price, with his 1-3 playoff record and his 12-20 regular season record and last year's 0-4 playoff record, could get off the horrible team that just beat the Penguins AND the Capitals would be one of the best goalies in the league because of the pressure that the rookie Halak can handle is too much for the three year veteran Price? I really hope you're saying this to get attention. But either way, I can't wait for the day some other team to has more swedes than the red wings so we can stop dealing with your relentless bulls***.

As Red Wings fans, can we talk?

This happens every year.

No wonder we lost. Fate was against us.

Thanks to Hudler, Holland didn't have a very god selection. He did a great job with what he had.

Wow, that's pretty intense. Glad to hear you're okay.

I wish Kenny would do something like this. Signing Lombardi and Plekanec would be sweet and make our team much better, though I think the Hamhuis signing is redundant if we don't lose any top 4 d-men. At the very least Stuart, our third best defenseman, won't be playing on the third pairing. Lidstrom also won't be singing that long or most likely that low, but not signing Hamhuis would offset that and then some. Pretty good otherwise.

Man if only Hudler had Cammalleri's body he would be scoring 150 points in a season.

Try a great 33 game effort with 27 points, followed by the inexplicable 9 game cold streak. Lets even go back to last playoffs. 60 points in 90 games. 11 months of playing. 55 points over 82 games. Those are his numbers over about 11 months. Yet he doesn't have the consistency to do that over 6 months? When playing with better players to boot? I'll also ask you this: While he had his 27 points in 33 games (67 point pace, AND THIS IS WHEN HE WAS PLAYING WITH CLEARY MILLER AND BERTUZZI MOSTLY), what was the longest streak of games he went without a point? I'll tell you. 3 games. And that was when he got bumped down to the third line for a week or so. Even with that 9 games cold streak that was too strange to not have an underlying reason, HE STILL HAD 28 POINTS IN 42 GAMES. 55 point pace. That's way better than your baseless "40-50" point potential. When you say he might MAX OUT and under 50 points, you make yourself look like an idiot. You have something against Filppula, it's really the only explanation for this inept argument you use. You hide it very well, but you just have something against him. Maybe it's subconscious and you don't even realize it, but you do. Fil is a great 2 way forward who has AT LEAST 60 points for a few seasons in him, if not 70 if he gets the line mates he deserves. And I wouldn't believe the Leino thing was a sarcastic comment if jesus came down and said so. I wouldn't even believe it if Vanessa Lengies offered to sleep with me if I believed it.

Including the playoffs, Filppula had, this season, 44 points in 67 games and 7 1/2 months. That is a 54 point pace over 82 games. A 54 point pace over 7 1/2 months. Is that not consistent? And is it really that far of a stretch to think that that total could be 65ish points over a full season playing with true top 6 player when his 54 point pace was playing with third liners for almost two thirds of those games? And I also want to mention that I mis-"spoke" in my first post in this thread. No idea why I said Flip had 7 points in 9 games. I meant to say 9 points in 12 games. Last summer you said Leino had more of a chance to hit 50 points than Filppula. Filppula finished the season on a 52 point pace and Leino on a whopping 16 point pace. You were wrong then and if you predict Filppula to get any less than 60ish points you'll be wrong yet again. Where have you heard about this?

If he plays the entire year in the top 6 with a full time PP spot, which I fully expect to happen, I think he'll get anywhere from 65-75 points next season. Despite the injury, Flip just had a career year despite playing the majority of the season with third line players and another great outing in the playoffs despite a lack-luster second round. 7 points in the first round against a tough opponent yet you still doubt his offensive abilities. It's a spectacular display of ignorance, it really is. Filppula could have 100 points next season and I'd be more surprised to see you admit that you're wrong than to see Filppula get 100 points.

Good call. Nevermind his 9 points (4 of those being goals) in 12 games in the playoffs and his 8 point/3 game streak in the midst of having 27 points in 33 games all the while have a career season in points per game. Let's ignore the reality and demand a trade for Filppula. This news sucks. We need someone new in our top 6. Period. EDIT: Changed 7 points in 9 games to the correct 9 points in 12 games

We would have heard a lot more about Lidstrom's last season/game from the team if this was going to be his last season IMO. I have confidence he'll be coming back.

mindfly hasn't had a chance to hate him yet. Being that he sucks, it would make being a wings "fan" that much better for him.

Trade the tigers.

I'm flabbergasted at the people who basically want the same exact team going into next year that just flubbed out of the playoffs.

If we could actually trade Rafalski (plus maybe a pick or an AHL player or something) for one of the best young players in the league you'd be crazy not to do it.

He'll waive it if the wings ask him to. And he wouldn't be the only piece in the trade.