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  1. Hypothetical contraction

    Ok guys, You must realize that any city will appear to have a decent fan base when their team is winning. It is the support the team receives when they are less competitive that is important. As for expanding the league, not to be mean but that is the worse idea ever presented to fix the NHL. The league is already VERY diluted. There are 3 or 4 players on most of the rosters that shouldnt even be in the league, if we expanded that number would rise. Contract AT LEAST 4 teams and the level of play will rise which should make for a more exciting product. Also, we need to realize the game is what it is. It will never be as popular as football or baseball. If this means more teams should be in Canada, so be it. The only teams that should not be contracted or relocated are as follows. New Jersey Devils New York Islanders New York Rangers Philadelphia Flyers Boston Bruins Buffalo Sabres Montreal Canadians Ottawa Senators Toronto Maple Leafs Chicago Blackhawks Detroit Red Wings St. Louis Blues Calgary Flames Colorado Avalanche Edmonton Oilers Minnesota Wild Vancouver Canucks And no i did not leave anyone off that list. A case could be made for the 13 other teams in the nhl to be contracted or relocated.
  2. Lines for 2008

    Holmstrom 2.25 - Datsyuk 6.7- Filpulla .71 Grigorenko .85 - Zetterberg 2.65 - Bertuzzi 4 Cleary .662- Draper 2.128 - Franzen .941 Maltby .835- Kopecky .45 - Samuelsson 1.2 Hudler .5 Lidstrom 7.6 - Lilja 1 Kronwall 3 - Chelios .85 Schneider 3 - Lebda .65 Kindl .8 Hasek 1.2 Osgood .75 42.726 You can always trade for a physical defensemen at the deadline. it would save cap if we waited Holmstrom 2.25 - Datsyuk 6.7- Filpulla .71 Grigorenko .85 - Zetterberg 2.65 - Bertuzzi 4 Cleary .662- Draper 2.128 - Franzen .941 Maltby .835- Kopecky .45 - Samuelsson 1.2 Hudler .5 Lidstrom 7.6 - Lilja 1 Kronwall 3 - Chelios .85 Schneider 3 - Lebda .65 Kindl .8 Hasek 1.2 Osgood .75 42.726 You can always trade for a physical defensemen at the deadline. it would save cap if we waited OR, not likely, but my dream Holmstrom 2.25 - Datsyuk 6.7- Filpulla .71 Grigorenko .85 - Zetterberg 2.65 - Bertuzzi 4 Cleary .662- Draper 2.128 - Franzen .941 Maltby .835- Kopecky .45 - Samuelsson 1.2 Hudler .5 Lidstrom 7.6 - Lilja 1 Kronwall 3 - Chelios .85 Kindl .8- Lebda .65 Quincey .8 Giguere 5.5 Osgood .75 44.826 OR, not likely, but my dream Holmstrom 2.25 - Datsyuk 6.7- Filpulla .71 Grigorenko .85 - Zetterberg 2.65 - Bertuzzi 4 Cleary .662- Draper 2.128 - Franzen .941 Maltby .835- Kopecky .45 - Samuelsson 1.2 Hudler .5 Lidstrom 7.6 - Lilja 1 Kronwall 3 - Chelios .85 Kindl .8- Lebda .65 Quincey .8 Giguere 5.5 Osgood .75 44.826
  3. Wings Favorites in 08

    okay redwinguofmfan, i was with ya on lilja being solid minus one mistake until the he was better than lidstrom comment. This makes me question your hockey knowledge. However what people dont understand about Bertuzzi is that this guy was around 60% and he hasnt played in three seasons. Never in his stay with us was he healthy or did he have his legs under him, and he was still productive. Give this guy an offseason to get healthy and a training camp to get in shape. Trust me, all he has to do is get to within a shadow of himself pre/steve moore incident and he will be dominant for us. He is the perfect nasty/gritty player we have always wanted/needed. Why give him up? We need guys like Bertuzzi to create space/protect guys like Zet, Dats, Filp. Like we saw the past 3 cup runs, you cant win without grit. This season we had grit and boom, we go to the WCFs.
  4. Wings Favorites in 08

    As long as a few things fall into place, i truly believe the wings will be the team to beat next season. First and foremost, it is a MUST to re-sign Todd Bertuzzi. It boggles my mind as to why people bash this guy. It would surprise me if he was above 70% in his entire stay as a red wing. Additionally, the guy hasnt played in 3 frigging seasons. Any argument made against this guy is out of complete and utter ignorance and i have to question if you have any real hockey knowledge. Just wait and watch a healthy Bertuzzi in the winged wheel. You guys will be salivating next year. The second thing that has to happen goal tending. I dont think Howard is ready to carry the load, and i doubt if Hasek can stay healthy in two consecutive seasons. This is an area we may have to get lucky. I really think a healthy trio of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Bertuzzi would make up the best forwards in the league. Especially with key producers such as Homer, Cleary and an improved Filpulla supporting them.
  5. Player Development

    We all know that the development of players in the Red Wings organization has been far superior to the majority of teams in the NHL despite where we generally pick in the draft. Henrik Zetterberg, Pavel Datsyuk, Tomas Kopecky, Johan Franzen, Nick Kronwall, Jiri Fischer, Brett Lebda, Dan Cleary(i know we ddint draft him), Andreas Lilja(i know, hes played solid, Valterri Fipulla, Jiri Hudler,... Can this be due to utter brilliance in scouting, or do you guys think there is a direct corelation to the development of our prospects with the likes of playing along side the Lidstroms, Chelios, Yzerman, Shanahan, Hull, Robitaille, Schneiders of the world?
  6. Interesting about the standings

    The consensus on this board is that everyone wants to do away with the shootout. However everyone on this board is a die hard hockey fan. Unfortunately there aren't enough of you die hard hockey fans out there or else our hockey games wouldnt be on OLN for crying out loud. What im trying to say is the average guy(non hockey fan) enjoys shootouts. I go to college at Western Michigan and barely anyone watches hockey, which is sad because this is supposed to be "hockeytown." But whenever a shootout comes on everyone seems to get excited and gather around the TV. So in my opinion shootouts are a necessary evil because it is one of the only things inn hockey average guys(non hockey fans) like about hockey.
  7. Three star forwards lead to success

    I agree with Shanny and Bertuzzi being even thing. Although I think Zetterberg and Datsyuk may be closer to Feds and Stevie then we think. I just think Zetterberg, and Datsyuk havent even reached their full potential yet. These two guys could be top 10 players in this league, if they arent already. Another point is the 97 team had a pretty damn good 4th offensive option in Slava Kozlov. This team doesnt have anyone close to him. Maybe Hudler, Grigorenko, or Filiplulla can step up.
  8. Three star forwards lead to success

    With the exception of our 2002 SC when we we had Shanny, Hull, Robitaille, Yzerman, and Fedorov up front, our runs from 97-01 was powered by Steve Yzerman, Sergei Federov, and Brendan Shanahan up front. These three were the guys that led us to our 97 and 98 cups. My question to you all is this. If Bertuzzi comes back next year and can return to form as the best power forward in the game, which three players are the better nucleus for a team. Todd Bertuzzi, Pavel Datsyuk, and Henrik Zetterberg or Brendan Shanahan, Sergei Fedorov, and Steve Yzerman -------------------- My opinion, the edge goes to the 97-98 wings. Sergei in my opinion was the best player in the game back then, Shanny was a dominant powerforward, and of course Yzerman is Yzerman.
  9. Pavel Datsyuk

    Has Pavel grown as a hockey player this season. Every game he makes me wonder how the hell he does some of the things he does with the puck, and i dont remember him playing like this in the past. His vision/confidence just seems much better than one year ago..
  10. Anaheim Ducks, one of the toughest teams ever?

    overall it's probably the flyers. But as a 1-2 punch, i'd take Probert-Kocur over anyone.. even if Laraque and Brasher player on the same team.
  11. Chris Chelios

    If i'm not mistaken it was Anders Erickson and a couple of firsts. Don't know if it was 2 or 3 first round picks.
  12. lilly pad fights moen! lmao!

    Agallach, how about you don't post in threads unless you are going to add to the discussion topic. Unless you are a moderator stop policing threads. No one cares.
  13. just want to rant a lil

    I'm all for replacing Samuelsson for a grittier player, however, Langfield or Ellis isnt the solution. I completely agree that Samuelsson is vastly overrated, and i have no idea what babcock sees in the guy. I know people will talk about his point production, but lets be realistic he has to be one of the softest players in the league and is incredibly easy to play against. In the playoffs that just isnt going to work. an ideal forward playoff lineup would look like t his Zetterberg- Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Calder-Lang-Franzen (line has been working Holmstrom-Hudler-Filpulla Maltby-Draper-Cleary Samuelsson
  14. Sergei Fedorov boos

    "it's hockey not the OC" hhahaah that quote should end this discussion riight on the spot.. perfectly said.
  15. Sergei Fedorov boos

    agreed... for all those who think it's classless that we boo, quit being up tight and get a sense of humor. you guys take yourselves too seriously. in addition fedorov left because he thought he needed the spotlight, more ice time. etc. but he found out quickly that he couldnt carry a team and started losing. he started missing the playoffs and recieved less ice time. its justified that we remind him of this everytime he comes to JLA.