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Am I missing something, that wasn't a trip?

Holland won't make a trade, you guys should know that by now.

What is going on in detroit?

Can we really afford to keep players because they are good playoff performers? Cleary plays to the best of the ability that he has left. However he does provide some good leadership qualities.

He should say thanks but no thanks and get his s*** together for the team that signs his pay checks.

Howard is amazing for most of his career, has a bad stretch of games, and now people want his head. Unbelievable.

Babcock claims to play the guys that work hard but yet Cleary is done and still draws into the lineup. Every player outplayed him last game but yet Tootoo gets sent down.

Babcock claims to play the guys that work hard but yet Cleary is done and still draws into the lineup. Every player outplayed him last game but yet Tootoo gets sent down.

I am starting to think this teams problems are a lot to do with the way this team is ran by Bab`s and Holland. Its clear that Bab`s has his favorites and will play those guys before players that are working twice as hard and have more value to the team. What kind of message does this send to the rest of the team? Smith, Quincey and Cleary where -7 in the first period and didn't miss a shift. Because of all the injuries and call ups we now know that we have lots of players that are NHL ready. I am going to hate seeing these guys get sent down so Cleary and Sammy can keep there roster spots. And don't give me the cap bs if Holland wanted these 2 gone he would find away. Holland made a big mistake signing Sammy, Cleary and Quincey. its time to admit it and make moves. Its a good thing this team is in the east because they would not make the playoffs in the west.

I am starting to think this teams problems are a lot to do with the way this team is ran by Bab`s and Holland. Its clear that Bab`s has his favorites and will play those guys before players that are working twice as hard and have more value to the team. What kind of message does this send to the rest of the team? Smith, Quincey and Cleary where -7 in the first period and didn't miss a shift. Because of all the injuries and call ups we now know that we have lots of players that are NHL ready. I am going to hate seeing these guys get sent down so Cleary and Sammy can keep there roster spots. And don't give me the cap bs if Holland wanted these 2 gone he would find away. Holland made a big mistake signing Sammy, Cleary and Quincey. its time to admit it and make moves. Its a good thing this team is in the east because they would not make the playoffs in the west.

I am starting to think this teams problems are a lot to do with the way this team is ran by Bab`s and Holland. Its clear that Bab`s has his favorites and will play those guys before players that are working twice as hard and have more value to the team. What kind of message does this send to the rest of the team? Smith, Quincey and Cleary where -7 in the first period and didn't miss a shift. Because of all the injuries and call ups we now know that we have lots of players that are NHL ready. I am going to hate seeing these guys get sent down so Cleary and Sammy can keep there roster spots. And don't give me the cap bs if Holland wanted these 2 gone he would find away. Holland made a big mistake signing Sammy, Cleary and Quincey. its time to admit it and make moves. Its a good thing this team is in the east because they would not make the playoffs in the west.

Call the fight what you want but at least the women showed some push back on both teams. We have watched our goalies get ran our best players get hammered and nothing ever happens. Laughing at the way this fight happened have you ever watched some of our players in a scrum????? just sayin'

Babcock claims to play the guys that work hard but yet Cleary is done and still draws into the lineup. Every player outplayed him last game but yet Tootoo gets sent down.

Babcock claims to play the guys that work hard but yet Cleary is done and still draws into the lineup. Every player outplayed him last game but yet Tootoo gets sent down.

Babcock claims to play the guys that work hard but yet Cleary is done and still draws into the lineup. Every player outplayed him last game but yet Tootoo gets sent down.

Babcock claims to play the guys that work hard but yet Cleary is done and still draws into the lineup. Every player outplayed him last game but yet Tootoo gets sent down.

Babcock claims to play the guys that work hard but yet Cleary is done and still draws into the lineup. Every player outplayed him last game but yet Tootoo gets sent down.

Glad to see Goose back. Not happy that Tootoo got sent down again though. Sammy and Cleary need to go but somehow Cleary keeps getting into the lineup even though he doesn't deserve a spot.
We need the points 3-1 Wings. Merry Christmas to you all

Of course he's tough….he was a Brandon Wheat King! The WHL toughens kids up and apparently gives them thick skin in their head region as well. Hope he gets better soon, always been a big fan of his.

Others have already pointed out the sound evidence that Babcock is one of if not the best coaches in the league. And that's what it comes down to for me. In terms of replacing him, I don't think there's a clear candidate that's better.
Holland has been the most disappointing these last few seasons, not Babcock.

the reason why we suck is cause we got so many injuries is totally bogus ... in october 9 out of 13 games we played we scored 2 goals or fewer , besides helm we were healthy
we improved a bit in november but lost 7 in a row and now we just lost 6 of 7 and every game this month so far minus the blown lead vs the flyers we scored less than 2 goals
these team has way too many 4th line players playing the same style
im not saying we need enforcers but if we got a few guys whod just go around and hit the crap out of guys our team would look alot better than it does now

Weiss will be bought out if this kind of play continues. Sammy, Weiss, and Cleary are all big mistakes on behalf of Holland. Maybe Babs plays them together to remind him...lol

I couldn't agree more with this. The Wings got pushed around and quit playing the game. Neil ran around all night intimidating the wings then pursued one of our young D into a fight he didn't want to be in. Z was roughed up and Pavel was beat down all night. Not one of the Red Wings stood up or helped out their teammates. Ericsson, Quincey, Abby where were you? If Abby won't help out and push back in a game like that he can be waived as well. Holland and co have a week to figure out what to do before our next meeting with them. and don't think every team in the league saw how the Wings folded last night as well

I couldn't agree more with this. The Wings got pushed around and quit playing the game. Neil ran around all night intimidating the wings then pursued one of our young D into a fight he didn't want to be in. Z was roughed up and Pavel was beat down all night. Not one of the Red Wings stood up or helped out their teammates. Ericsson, Quincey, Abby where were you? If Abby won't help out and push back in a game like that he can be waived as well. Holland and co have a week to figure out what to do before our next meeting with them. and don't think every team in the league saw how the Wings folded last night as well

I couldn't agree more with this. The Wings got pushed around and quit playing the game. Neil ran around all night intimidating the wings then pursued one of our young D into a fight he didn't want to be in. Z was roughed up and Pavel was beat down all night. Not one of the Red Wings stood up or helped out their teammates. Ericsson, Quincey, Abby where were you? If Abby won't help out and push back in a game like that he can be waived as well. Holland and co have a week to figure out what to do before our next meeting with them. and don't think every team in the league saw how the Wings folded last night as well