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    NHL asks IIHF, KHL to negate Hudler's KHL Contract

    NOW I'm pissed at that little F'ER! What the hell Huds?! (from the same article) ...."Whatever is decided, Hudler's arbitration case will proceed, unless he and the Red Wings agree on a contract. The club's last offer was a five-year deal worth $3 million a season. If Hudler's deal with Dynamo is validated, he still needs to go through the arbitration process with the Red Wings and honor that contract if and when he returns to the NHL...."
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    NHL asks IIHF, KHL to negate Hudler's KHL Contract

    Dude, the part you bolded is how things get taken out of context. (in the political world if you are going there)..ready the rest of the sentence.....I was merely saying that why would Hudler take a pay cut or no raise to only come back and play half ass! He wouldn't do that....the whole sentence LeftWinger.....so no, it's not a back peddle from anything I said, that was meant for all the people saying that he would not play to his full ability, in which their cases are oxymoronic, b/c those same people say he can't play anyway...so then why do they care.... The point, in case I need to say it again...is why would someone take a contract NOT to get what they deserve and then play like crap b/c their pissed about not making money...so at the end of that year when their said pay is to be negotiated then the GM would say 'screw off-you didn't give it your all like we agreed, so you're not getting your raise".... Does that make better since. Im not a damn English major! Just read the whole sentence and if didn't make sense, read it again.
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    NHL asks IIHF, KHL to negate Hudler's KHL Contract

    See...that's your opinon....only Wing to play all 82 games...nope didn't show up at all....never on the ice, never scored any goals on PP...never scored any goals in the playoffs, no assists......the only reason he may not be visible is because he's small.....but still put up 57 points....hard to do for someone that is invisible... And I wasn't yelling, I even said silly goose, more of a smirk...so why do I need to chill?....how about all those posters saying "f huds, f this, f that...." They need to chill not me...... Oh and yes, the Wings will be just FINE with Hel-Leino-Abby.....HEY they might even put up MORE points then Huds did last year....it could happen! And man, all those injuries out there, why would we want to keep a young guy that is good to go that can put up points...Man we don't need him....just get a grit hitting guy and the Wings will be GREAT next year.... yes, I was being sarchastic....
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    NHL asks IIHF, KHL to negate Hudler's KHL Contract

    Hudler, the lone Red Wing to play in all 82 games, recorded career-high totals in goals (23) and points (57) last season. He has a terrific shot, a deft passing touch and, despite his size (generously listed at 5-foot-10 and 186 pounds) goes to the net. Nearly half of his points came on the power play (six goals, 28 points). The Red Wings hope Valtteri Filppula, who rarely saw power-play time, and/or Dan Cleary, who saw only spot power-play duty, can make up for that. Hudler had four goals and 12 points in 23 playoff games. He ran out of steam in the final two rounds, with no goals, four assists and 12 shots on goal in the last 12 games. KHL offers are not binding since there is no transfer agreement between the NHL and the Russian Hockey Federation. So Hudler could opt out of his Dynamo contract and return to the NHL. But that seems unlikely, considering the money he will make. The KHL has lured away several NHL players in recent years. Jaromir Jagr signed last summer with Avangard Omsk for a reported $5 million a year. Nashville's Alexander Radulov signed with Salavat Yulaev Ufa last year. Former Red Wing Sergei Fedorov left Washington to sign last month with Metallurg Magnitogorsk. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...o_contract.html 1st bolded- Only player to play all 82 games....career high stats (and some of you say that if he came back he'd play half ass)....doubt it! 2nd bolded-NOT BINDING....back-up plan. If he WANTED to leave this Wings, he would not, repeat..WOULD NOT HAVE FILED FOR ARBITRATION. And since when is it wrong to want to better your skills....??? Yes the KHL may not be the defensive/hitting that he may need....but MANY of you also say he doesn't skate fast enough among other stuff...well...wouldn't that help in that are?! And for $5mil....come on....almost anyone on here woulda took the deal if you couldn't play for the team you wanted and not want to play anywhere else. I don't believe for a minute that teams out there didn't want him for $3Mil either...especially when he ranks with the top 3 players (NYRangers) on one of those teams, and I am sure there are others. He's one of the top 100 nationally ranked players, out of how many??? Get with it....the litte dude has some skills.....if you don't like him that's fine.....but stop saying "Great, if he comes back then he'll suck for the Wings...and then it's all his fault we lost games..." That guy has put his heart and sole into the Red Wings...and just because he deserves a raise and WANTS to play for the Wings....now he's a bad guy?! Ok...then so is 80% of the NHL......
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    NHL asks IIHF, KHL to negate Hudler's KHL Contract

    Look at the cap...there is no way he was going to get $2.5 at all this year! The cap space is at $1.8 w/ Helm & Abby on there.....so maybe the contract terms are what they could not agree on......This whole $2.5 crap couldn't even be offered....so that should just be thrown out the window. And to say he won't give his all....that is ridiculous....would you take a pay cut to play for the team you loved, knowing that you would get a raise in the next coming years, but not play your all.....so then after that the GM would say "forget your raise...I'm trading your ass..." THINK ABOUT THAT! When have you known Happy Huds to not give his all?!?! He has to in order to stay in the NHL and play for anyone, let alone the Wings. Silly goose.
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    NHL asks IIHF, KHL to negate Hudler's KHL Contract

    That's how I view it as a fan...if he wanted to desert he would've taken a trade and left (or something to that effect)...Huds wanted to stay, that was obvious, yes, there is a thing called sacrificing for your team and teammates, but on the same note, there is also another situation that is called "lowballing" and not giving or trying to give what a player is deserved.... Some of you may not think he deserved it, some of us do.....I still think Holland didn't think everything through and things happened that he didn't expect and got out of hand. Am I Holland, no, am I a GM....no.....but that is my opinion, and I am titled to it.
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    Now now now......just b/c he won't be in a Wings jersey next year, doesn't mean he's not one of "ours" (theirs obviously, not mine)...they still hold his rights, technically!
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    Of course I'm not getting rid of it! It took me a while just to finally decide to buy it since I had gotten my hubby his Cleary one....I couldn't think of spending that much again! But I finally did...and well....DAMN.....I need another one! Helm??? Not sure.....I'm thinking of Z since my 8yr old decided he didn't want that one anymore and now wants a Lids jersey! LOL!
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    Sooooo....damn, I have to buy a new jersey! Errrrrr.................
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    So we should ***** about Hudler not giving the Wings any compensation for him leaving ??? How about the Wings giving compensation to others (AHL'ers) BEFORE a fulltime NHL'er.................... Holland should have had Hudler resigned before even dealing with Leino, Abby, and whoever else he decided to bring up from Grand Rapids...There should've been a contract and money available with Hossa-Sammy-Kopecky-Conklin leaving for Huds BEFORE signing anyone that was guarenteed to make less than him....... People talk about how loyalty is a big thing with the Wings and since Hudler didn't give the Wings what they wanted, he's an unloyal ass....but Holland signing kids from GR BEFORE signing someone that has played three years (NHL), had part in winning a cup, career high stats, etc........isn't disloyal???? It's a F'N slap in the face if you ask me! It works both ways kids, both ways...... And if it's true that he plays in the KHL and the Wings retain his rights....who knows....you could see a beefed-up Hudler in two years kicking ass....(wishin' just a bit)
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    Haha! thanks for letting me know....!
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    Dude...seriously.....no need for bringing God into the situation or being an ass...I've posted 2 things and you're telling ME to get over it....I wasn't even complaining about him leaving. (except my damn joke about kicking his ass!)...I said I could kinda see his point..... ...and UNTIL Holland says "Hudler has left the building" he's not gone.. ..the thread does say"......will continue to talk to Red Wings....." Get over yourself......can people on here just make comments without getting railed....damn man!
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    Who do we try for next?

    July 8, TSN: The Detroit Red Wings signed veteran defenceman Doug Janik to a one-year, two-way contract on Wednesday, the team announced.
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    Single Tax rate 35% over $372,950 (http://taxes.about.com/b/2008/10/21/2009-tax-brackets-announced.htm) $1.95M-$3.8M (if my calculations are correct...(but I'm not that good at math) So, seems like a silly move to me.....but he's not being offered $3-$4M...so that's where the problem is!
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    Whooptido....so did you talk to Hudler and that's what he told you.....Hudler's press release...is there a video somewhere?? Holland doing nothing worng...letting players go, getting nothing in return, having less forwards than we need....but signing defencemen when he had already to plan on trading one that we already have.....?????? IMO---he's not actually helping the situation.... I know you don't like Huds and have some kind of hate for him like LeftWinger.....but don't be so naive to the entire situation......I think the Wings are in trouble--not solely because of the loss of Hudler.....but because of the entirity of events that have happened since the Frenzy began......yes, Abby-Ericcson-Leino-Helm...I like watching them play...but do I think they can make up for ALL of the Wings losses....NO...I don't......and we will agree to disagree on that point. Hopefully our Elite players will have their best career's next year, no matter how long they've been with the Wings...in the NHL...or they're age..... I have faith in the Wings...but I can't sit here and say I'm not worried like some of you do.....
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    Who do we try for next?

    Does it really F'N matter.....Holland is already signing defencmen instead of trying to get the forward situation fixed and he's still going to trade a defencemen...???? Has anyone taken Holland to the ER to check for dementia?!.......... ......I'm just sayin'........
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    Holland confirms that Hudler will play in KHL

    WTF?! Read these 12 pages before my coffee.....Hudler--I will find you and kick you in your scrawny ass and pull you by the ear into Hollands office and make you take whatever he offers you that is a match to what you currently make or a little more.....then after making you aplogize, I will ***** slap you into October....! I will only do this out of love, not anger...... ......aside from that........are then any articles that say the actual "happenings" and if this was all true about Holland's $2.5 offer and it is a 1yr for $2...that doesn't make sense....but 2 yrs at more than that.....you can't be mad at him for wanting the money...b/c that's what everyone else that left wanted....and everyone was ok with that...... He wants to play in Detroit....nothing wrong with that....if he can't play for the D then he goes to Russia....can you really picture him somewhere else??? I can't! and if Holland isn't offering him more....then I don't think other teams will..... How would you feel if you just had the best season of your life and no one wanted to pay you what you earned -- but there are others out there making the upwards of $3-$5 Mil more than you because they are BIGGER but have virtually the same stats or worse........ A lot of you say shame on Hudler.....I say shame on Holland for thinking he can belittle players like that......
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    Ville Leino signs a 2 year extension

    Really....Lilja & Moen....so a guy that's pretty much on the injury list forever and a guy that's not even ours to sign for under $3M w/ money left over ......... Lil $1.25M Moen $900,000 that's $2,150,000..... extra cap space from WHERE?! You're ass?????? According to capgeek...where Leino's pay has changed from 775 to 800 there is only $1,819,347 left w/ Lils included already so -900,000 is $1.25 which still isn't enough forwards right???? IF moen is making $900000 don't you think he may want a raise too...... Would you rather have money left over, or a man the Wings can count on to play f'n hockey????? I would love to have BOTH....but it's not going to happen... Hudler filed for arbitration...a trade isn't going to happen...if anything, in the aspect of not signing Huds, he is gone and now there is money to sign crappy players...WOOtothemothf'nHOO...how does that HELP the Wings..... I get the Holland is getting a young team together.....actually a smart move, since all the other teams seem to be offering veteran players more money....the Wings will have younger players in the NHL ready for when all the other teams are "OLD"....ok, that's all I got.....damn beer.......
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    Hudler files for arbitration

    I like this part of your post....I like Filppula....I honestly thinjk they would complement each other on the same line...it seems that one has what the other lacks....put a Z or Franzen in there....and it's like smooth sailing. (IMO) that line would have it all I think. ...... I never even thought about the shootout spot..... but who would play with the opposing goalie with his little leg kick when he shoots.....? lol.... I agree though that I don't think any of this will have anything to do with Filppula....he should be taken out of the equation. They HAVE to find a way to keep Huds....if injuries are anything like the playoffs and we've lost Hossa-Sammy-Kopeceky....I mean even though two of them I could really care less about, they did pick up some slack....and yes Leino & Helm......but I don't know if Leion's 1st full time season will be as great as some think...we can all speculate on points and goals and such......but we won't every really know til the numbers are on the boards....right??? As for Hudler waniting more money then Filppula.....wanting more than $2.5 is not exactly wanting more then him.....knowing that the arbitration is making a case for $3-$4 maybe closer to $4 is knowing that the negotiating meets in the middle right....so I'm betting that if there is a $3 offered ( I don't know how) he'd take it....or as TONS of us have been saying, a small raise this year & salary re-negotiating next year when there is more cap space........
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    Hudler files for arbitration

    2008-09 Regular Season: -Had a career high 57 points (previous high was 42 points)......assume for 09/10..... 67 points -Scored a career high 23 goals (previous high - 15)...................assume fo.09/10...... 30 goals I mean at 25...we should assume that he only gets better, right???? Regarding ice time and not being able to play more than 12 minutes....(just b/c he doesn't play more than 12 doesn't mean he can't...that is Bab's call....... 2009 PLAYOFF HIGHS Ice Time - 21:28, Game 2 vs ANA 2008-09 HIGHS Ice Time - 21:49, 3/3 at STL 09 Playoffs Ice Time F/O Jun 12 '09 PIT @ DET 12:02 1A Jun 09 '09 DET @ PIT 8:50 Jun 06 '09 PIT @ DET 11:12 1A Jun 04 '09 DET @ PIT 11:21 Jun 02 '09 DET @ PIT 12:25 May 31 '09 PIT @ DET 13:01 1A May 30 '09 PIT @ DET 11:40 May 27 '09 CHI @ DET 18:33 May 24 '09 DET @ CHI 16:36 May 22 '09 DET @ CHI 15:34 May 19 '09 CHI @ DET 13:40 1A May 17 '09 CHI @ DET 13:30 May 14 '09 ANA @ DET 13:07 1G (PP) 1A May 12 '09 DET @ ANA 9:43 1A May 10 '09 ANA @ DET * 8:47 1G (game winning goal) May 07 '09 DET @ ANA 10:32 May 05 '09 DET @ ANA 15:41 1A May 03 '09 ANA @ DET 21:28 (played his longest in game 2 against ANA after taking hit by Brown in Game 1) May 01 '09 ANA @ DET 13:16 Apr 23 '09 DET @ CBJ 14:21 1A Apr 21 '09 DET @ CBJ 11:56 Apr 18 '09 CBJ @ DET 18:11 1G (PP) 1A Apr 16 '09 CBJ @ DET 14:17 1G 1A 09 Playoffs 15 out of 23 games are over 12 min (4 of his playoff points produced in 12 min or under) And as for the 08/09 Season....67 of 82 games were over 12 min of ice time So, that is not an argument (IMO)
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    Ville Leino signs a 2 year extension

    Opinions are opinions, but yup.... ....I'll go with whatever it takes to get him to stay! At least you didn't give some ridiculous amount like "he should stay the same or take a cut!"....lol....I just don't think he's greedy.....Hossa may not have been greedy about the money (although......what he just signed for...but anywho, it was more greed for the cup...(IMO) but that is neither here nor there.....just had to get some agression out... But as for Hudler handcuffing the Wings capwise...yes & no....I think there was piss-poor planning somwhere along the lines between the end of 07/08-now and that's where it is hurting....I mean....if it was Sammy that was still here....we'd take out Hudler and insert his name (cap wise...NOT SKILL!)...and what if Sammy-Leino-Hudler were all wanting contracts.....there just wouldn't be enough...there still isn't......it's exhausting...Holland needs a vacation for sure after all this without anyone mentioning the words "cap space"!
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    Ville Leino signs a 2 year extension

    It shall and it WILL be done! But....help me out... I went to capgeek....21 roster with Abby & Helm pay in orange (& what does the EL stand for?)....if they are 2 way players ... it does or does not count against the cap.....and if not totaling theirs in......that would leave $3,153,791 if I pushed the buttons on my calculator right.....lol! So couldn't Hudler still get $2.9 (this year pending a long term or 2-3yr contract) and have some room left ( $253, 791).... or am I just now making stuff up b/c I'm tired????
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    Hudler files for arbitration

    I think I saw the posts were you were talking about on the HF boards (im not sure where) and even copied that into one of these damn threads (quoting you of course) b/c I couldn't remember seeing any posts by you on here...but now I do....I understand! Thanks for posting it here as well!!
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    Ville Leino signs a 2 year extension

    Ok...Hudler "greedy"????? And how much did we pull Hossa in for last year which is THE reason for all this crap in the first place...(IMO)......here or not here, his pay (come on as much as Lids?!) was WAY out in left field......even if he did score 40 goals in the regular season....did he say "oh I don't get pd in the playoffs, so what's the point?" At least Huds tried and you call HIM greedy! Hudler is trying to get something in the ball park of what he believes he should make, obviously filed arbitration because he WANTS to stay....and to at least make the amount the OTHER players of his caliber (and less!) are making.....to me that is NOT in anyway greed! You can not call someone greedy because they feel they deserve a raise. A player-ANY PLAYER-putting up 57 points is worth at least $3Mil.....Leino was being greedy in the fact of "I don't want to play in GR anymore...I want to be FT Wings player".....there for, having to have a LARGER paycheck to play......right??? Taking money out of the cap.....if he would play another year in GR....it would have a smaller cap hit which would HELP the Wings to afford Hudler.......come on....if you don't have $3Mil for a 57 point scorer that would score more on a line with the more veteran skilled players...then you went wrong somewhere with someone elses pay..... If you were at a job and you sold more, lets say, telephones than the guy next to you (who is still a little new at his job) and you were due for a raise, would you say "NO...I don't want to be greedy for doing my job and doing it well" especially in this economy....??? No, you'd take the damn raise that you thought you deserved..... I've tried to stop from getting "erked" on here, but Hudler greedy....don't think so bud!
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    Hudler files for arbitration

    I just read these and WOW....I was just stating that I would be moving next spring...and if he could go anywhere...I would love it to be Tampa b/c Im sure we'll have season tickets! LOL! I must read up on this Hedman dude....haha! And as for the trade convincing.....I don't think that'll happen....!