Lidstrom for life

Nothing will prepare you for Red Wing hockey like throwing a bunch of undersized players with no gritty support into a North American rink full of goons wearing the opposite jersey!

I couldn't find the "our powerplay" option under the "who is the best fighter" poll...

I see what you did there

I see what you did there

No.

Have you seen him play recently or something? I think he's gotten a lot better.

I think he earlier said he's looking to sign an enforcer and that comment is more like saying he maybe won't be able to sign one after all. "If it's not there, it's not there." "If we can't fit it in, we would go without it." I wouldn't also be so sure about that heavyweight thing. He's just referring to two former team members who could fight.

We'll get to see it in a couple of years again.
What year did they start doing that anyway? Was it with Cheli back in LXII?
This Sheahan kid sounds good, and I do have to admit that the name reminded me of Shanny.

You do realize they have Mike Green right?

I swear the Caps are idiots, are they ever goingt to address their defensive woes? Should've gone Merrill.

Again you're clearly confused about how brain damage works.
Concussion 1: Damn man. Get well soon.
Concussion 2: This is worrying. Try to avoid contact with your head.
Concussion 3: s***, that wasn't that hard of a hit... how'd you get concussed?
Concussion 4: f***! Another concussion? Do you remember math anymore?
Concussion 5: WTF? How did you get a concussion opening a jar of peanut butter?!?
Every concussion comes easier than the last. Go read up about Eric Lindros.
A guy who has 4 concussions in his history is an injury waiting to happen.
Franzen and Zetterberg don't have injuries that cause them to be more prone to getting injured. They've healed and are fine now.
Savard's brain is damaged. It will never be the same again no matter how long he waits and rests. Brain injuries are extremely serious and not even remotely comparable to a knee injury or injured shoulder.
But hey-- if I don't agree with you about trading a young, upward trending player for a 32 year old with a frighting medical history I must be a slappy.

That's a retarded assumption.
32 years old. Has suffered FOUR concussions.
Hey Einstein, why don't we just sign Eric Lindros.
Wow... you obviously have very limited medical knowledge. Google "cumulative effects of concussions".

For a 32 year old guy with concussion problems? Savard is trending downwards and Hudler trends upwards. If the Bruins feel Savard was still such a key asset they wouldn't have him on the block when they clearly need scoring.
Also note that Hudler is 6 years younger than Savard and hasn't hit his prime (or struggled with concussions).

There really is something special about the people on this forum.

It could be because it's so obvious?

I don't hate this trade for Atlanta's perspective. They clearly need to change the culture in that dressing room, so why not shuffle in some Cup champs.
Still hasn't gotten rid of their three worst contracts (Huet, Campbell, Sharp). They'll need to dump at least two of these guys to have any depth at all.
(channeling Downgoesbrown)
"Sir! You forgot your change, sir!"

I love Malts and it'd be different if we were a young team and needed some veteran leadership, but we don't... it's time to cut ties with Malts...

Probably his ability to score 10-15 more goals...

Does anyone else have the craziest sense of Deja vu? I swear I read this exact thread with the same first 3-4 posts a couple weeks ago.
Not a joke....seriously asking?

At least 10-15 more goals?
Also the ability to play top 6 minutes.

even in his good seasons...
does cleary really bring something (something worth 2.5 mil extra) to the table that eaves/miller don't?

4 mil isn't enough to get kovalchuck or marleau (unless one goes hossa), but what about...
Plekanec?
Whitney?
Stempniak?
Frolov?
Lombardi?
Koivu?
these options all sound a heck of a lot better than having cleary for another year...and that's not even taking into consideration the fact that we could replace him with a defenseman.

I love the guy...but what does he bring to the team that Miller and Eaves don't for 1/6th the price!?
Trade him and we've got about 4 mil to spend on his replacement. I'd like to replace him with someone that brings a little more offensive ability to that third line. For 4 mil, we might even be able to get someone that hits and plays defense as well.
Bottom line, if we could replace Cleary with a 4 mil free agent...that third line is a real-deal threat (or we could get a little trickier, have flip center the third line...4 mil is a lot of money, we could get a 1st or 2nd line winger). We won't depend on our top two lines so much. If we're lucky, it might even make us a little more physical. And really, we're losing absolutely nothing. Homer has always been our first guy in front of the net, Bert is now our second. We've got Helm, Eaves, Miller and Abby who are all better than Cleary on the penalty-kill.
Win-Win.
I love the guy...but he's become a little like Lapointe would have been for us if we had resigned him instead of losing him to Boston. He gets paid a lot. He doesn't do much for us that a min. salary guy does. It's a problem. Still, someone will probably take on his contract for draft picks...or...we could get real creative.
Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi
Hudler-Helm-Cleary
Miller-Abdelkader-Eaves
Draper
(Ritola)
Lidstrom-Rafalski
Kronwall-Stuart
Kindl-Ericsson
Lilja/Meech/FA
(Janik)
Howard
Osgood

It's a fine deal. Coming off his year last year this is a great deal. Just hope he can stay healthy.

You mean a stretch of 8 games in which he dominated. He had his slow parts of the season, but overall for his price he was a great value, even if you subtract his one man act which single handedly won us 3-4 games.