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Our team and our coach never used that as an excuse for why we lost.

QFT I guess Montreal can brag that they own the sport of hockey with all their titles, based on some of the logic being used here.

Contrary to how the red wings play, hockey is physical game. Injuries are thus part of it. That's why using it as an excuse is just laughable. And no, us trolls won't leave.

don't worry, i'm milking it.

great post. they just don't get how hearing all the excuses is gonna be constant entertainment for a long time. keep poking fun at crosby. it doesn't get to any pens fan the way a game 7 loss gets to you wings fans. and it won't turn that loss into a win. the first road team to win a SCF game 7 on the road since '71....i sorta understand why you're embarassed.

Should I retort with a "Crosby's overrated!!!" or "Bettman fixed the whole season!!"? Or wait, here's a classic - "We're still the better team".

this forum is so entertaining for a pens fan looking to rub your noses in it. Reading all the excuses for why you lost a game 7, why crosby sucks, this place is awesome! trolling never gets old

look at my avatar. be jealous.

We won. Be swoll. LOL. I get satksfactio . Ice your pains LOL>

we won. cry aboyt ut, pittsburgh could care less. we outplayed yinz,

Crosby has a better command of the english language than Malkin. That's why, Media-Wise, he's more lambasted than Malkin. Believe me, Malkin would talk trash if he could, much like Ovie does. Regardless, I think Crosby could be a way worse sport than he is right now. Look at the NFL and their egos. It's not close to the NHL, were everyone respects everyone. Trust me, Malkin knows he's better than Datyuk. The majority of Pens fans don't care what others think, we know we have crosby, malkin, and staal for the nucleus of our teams. Not a bad combo, prob equal with the wings for the next few years LIKE I'VE BEEN SAYING, BOTH TEAMS HAVE GREAT PLAYERS FOR YEARS TO COME! I appreciate the way both teams play hockey.

Guess what, Crosby is not the only diver in the game. I'm a bigger soccer fan than I am hockey fan, and diving has ruined soccer as a sport. True, he's been noted to dive. But I laugh when the DETROIT RED WINGS complain about diving!!! omg, Osgood dived on that poke from talbot. Zetterberg dived when Sid did a "routine slash" in game 5.Look it up, Hank deserves an Oscar. A LOT of skill players dive and try to earn their team a PP. The Red Wings aren't any different. Game 5 was full of dives from the wings, but you still deserved to win that game for sure. Stop acting like Sidney is the only one who dives. It's not as bad as other sports (namely socccer), and EVERY team does it (or atleast tries to do it)! Occasionally, yeah, he'll try to give his team an advantage. But Detroit is not one to complain. SC Champs '09...now i'm gonna rub it in! w00t!

I love these kinda posts. I just love them. Keep hating on Syd. Face the facts: both Malkin and Syd are better than Datsyuk. Datsyuk is a very talented player, no denying that. But, both Malkin and Syd were better this year than him, both regular season and post season. Not just quantitatively (statistically), but qualitatively (things that stats can't measure) as well. Crosby and Malkin both had more points than Dats in the regular and post season, and Dats has more talent around him. He's CHARMIN SOFT, just like most of your team is, sitting out the playoffs. He's really talented, no denying that; but he's soft. And if you've watched any of the pens games (series) you'd see how valuable Syd is. Great leader? He just captain'ed his team to a SC. Keep making excuses. He could be a much bigger cocky A-Hole if he wanted to (think terrell owens), but he stays classy for most interviews and media. He plays above average D for an offensive player, i'm sorry but watch any game he's played in. He's not going to shutdown the best in the league by himself, much like Zetterberg didn't shut down Crosby all by himself (myth). And even if you don't think he's the "greatest" in this league, he certainly deserves mention. The only other players who are on his level as far as individual talent are Malkin (teammate), Ovechkin, Datsyuk, and MAYBE Zetterberg. There are a lot of other really really good players in this sport, but few who can be mentioned with Crosby. Feel lucky that the wings have some players who can, cause I feel lucky that the pens have two amazing players in Sid and Malkin.

he's not a defenseman. he won't (and can't) be in on every defensive effort. but when a team had possession in the pens zone established, crosby is usually behind the blue line playing D. he's also known to go behind his own net several times and win 50/50 pucks and grind along the boards. he probably will never win a selke trophy, but that doesn't mean he can't play D or never plays it.

to his credit, yeah hank did good (with A LOT of help from his team). but what happend to last year's playoff MVP this year? why didn't he put up such fantastic numbers? with the exception of one game, he wasn't that great on offense....none of the wings really were. hank also got shut down. "Crosby plays good D now? Coulda fooled me. He's a great player for what he does, which is making plays and scoring goals, but a good dman he is not." how many pens games have you watched? ever? yea, it shows...

I do understand it. I've stated why I think everyone hates Crosby repeatedly in this thread. If you've watched Crosby at all, even just this season, he's way more than just an offensive center man. He plays great D, works hard along the boards, and can even get the gritty goals or make the gritty plays. He's the complete package. The reason he didn't put up huge numbers is the finals is because the wings (much like in '08) game planned around him, especially their 1st line. Zetterberg and Lidstrom actually did a great job against him this year, and last year. It's hard to put up the numbers he did earlier when a team is doing everything it can to make sure you don't have success. One of the reasons why the wings lost was because Malkin and the rest of team decided to show up this year, unlike last year. Also, I refuse to buy in to this idea that the west is somehow more talented than the east. That's so bogus and another NHL myth. A lot of people in the east think the western teams are "soft" but i don't agree with that either. Look at the previous cup winners. It's a good mix of east and west, with the wings over representing the west. As far as Bettman loving him, whatever. He has to somehow find a way to market his sport. He could care less if people love or hate Crosby, just so long as people are giving him attention and find a way to spend money on their product. He's a businessman trying to make money, there's no reason to look at it differently.

message boards with idiots weren't around back when lemieux, gretzky, and sakic played (or they weren't that popular). i guarantee you if this were '96-'97, you'd be saying way worse things about sakic. crosby right now is the player you all love to hate. if he wasn't that good, you guys wouldn't be so obsessed with him and make every other thread mention his name. and please, DON"T STOP talking about how the whole thing was fixed! classic entertainment, god i love sore losers! I've seen and heard a lot of people who can't take losing, but that really tops it, so don't stop.

thanks, there are way more stupid pens fans than smart ones. that goes for the majority of sports fans. don't even get me started on steelers fans ("bench roethlisberger!!"). most are just that - fans. they really don't understand what's going on inside the game and have a hard time abandoning their loyalties, the same goes for a lot of wings fans here. "CROSBY SUCKS!!11" "He's overhyped, waahh". Here's a tip: get used to Crosby's name being mentioned. He is that good. Keep thinking that he's not. By the end of his career, you'll all be wishing you would've won the draft lottery. And if you haven't already, you have no business making any sort of comment on the sport of hockey. Mark my words. Peace, haters.

dude, that's all i'm getting at. and that's not saying zetterberg isn't. but if you're building a team and you could pick any player right now, honestly, how could you not pick crosby? christ, he makes billy guerin look great.

Winners make plays, losers make excuses. yeah man, i feel sorry for the wings, the rules were bent in the pens favor....doesn't that eat you up inside, that it was the wings vs. the nhl? god that must really suck man. you know what, hold that thought.....

Dude, I could sit here and explain hockey to you for hours, and you still wouldn't understand it. Comparing Abby to Syd? LOLOLOLOL. and Zetterberg hardly got any points against Syd either, they were rather evenly matched (not points wise). Also, Crosby is such a good player that the wings focused too much on him, which gave players like Malkin and Talbot a chance to shine. You're such a hater, it's unreal. I love it, I love haters like you. I have a lot of respect for guys like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom, great hockey players. You, on the other hand, can't see past your own loyalty and see that Crosby isn't just an ok, or even a really good player, he's one of the best. Both quantitatively and qualitatively. If you don't have any haters, you're not doing anything right.

yeah, it looks bad to not shake the other teams hand after the game. but hey, they lost on their own ice and wanted to leave ASAP, not crosby's fault they decided to leave so early...c'mon, with all the excuses going here, at least give us this one

The thing with Hossa is that it's not a cut-n-dry decision (i.e. there's much debate as to what to do with him). obviously, if he takes a pay cut, you have to keep him. He is a great player, and you don't have to know a lot about hockey to realize that. BUT....and the poo always comes after the butt....he is not a playoff player, historically (and i'm not sure he was our points leader last year, but i'll give ya the benefit of the doubt for sake of argument). That's what i'm getting at. Do you keep Hossa and lose several less- higher profile players or do you get rid of him and free up some dough? Essentially, this is a much harder decision than any of the ones the pens have to make. Scuderi is easily our biggest UFA, and I hope we keep him, but word is we won't. But he's worth less than a million...

you misread what i typed. here's the facts: Zetterberg: '03 All-Rookie Team '08 Conn Smythe Crosby: '07 Art Ross '07 Lester B. Pearson '07 Hart Memorial Trophy '07 First All-Star Team '06 All-Rookie Team '07, '08, '09 All-Star Game '07 Mark Messier Leadership Award Bear in mind, Zetterberg is 28, and Crosby is 21. I could keep going and going, but I don't want to embarass you.