PavelValerievichDatsyuk

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  1. Pre-Season Games

    LOL at the guy yelling "you blew it"
  2. Daniel Cleary is back on the Red Wings as director of player development

    Your title's a bit worrisome, but congrats to Cleary. Reports were always that he was good as a mentor to younger players.
  3. Will Tyler Bertuzzi Make the Team Out of Camp?

    "..in peace and harmony..." From those lines, I'd say that Bert definitely makes the team. They already stated when they signed him that Witkowski wouldn't play every game. Obviously P.A.P. is in for AA, so if both those guys were on the team, it'd be questionable, but I doubt that would happen - might not even possible under the cap unless Parenteau would be signed for a low contract like Bert's.
  4. Wonder what the odds are for the 1st overall...

    That'd be like Fredo being named head of the family.
  5. Athanasiou Rumor

    I agree that Blash didn't get the most out of the group, but when we talk just in overarching statements about Blash making everyone playing only defensive hockey it's not true and seems more like a caricature. To talk specifically about the treatment of AA, for instance. AA really didn't play much of a defensive game. So why do people keep saying he was forced to play a defensive game? He was 12th in the league for goals per 60 minutes. So how can it be true that the style of play that he played stunted his offence? He scored a whole lot for the time he was given. I think the valid complaint is the amount of time he was given. With a team as offensively starved as ours, we should have given more minutes to him and Vanek. But even in that, I think the choice is understandable at least. Offensive players that aren't defensive as well are usually given roles on the 3rd line unless they score like Ovechkin or Kane. That's what we also did with him and Vanek (and Minny and the Habs also did with Vanek). And I don't think AA needed to be benched - especially with our under-performers. But the reasons were valid. AA did disappear for stretches. Blash's comment in these times weren't even much to do with defence and more just compete level: "I think there's nights where he's real engaged and I think he's an outstanding player, nights where that engagement isn't the same, whether it's the competitive level or the engagement or the attention to detail," Blashill said. "It's just hopefully a maturation process for him that he can continue to make sure that every night that competitive level is at the level it needs to be to be successful in this league. "It's a league where everybody's so close in talent ... if you don't compete like crazy, then it's hard to be successful. Compete means win puck battles, make sure that you don't get beat defensively. I talked to Ted Lindsay before the season and Ted said, 'Just make sure and tell those players if they go into the corner with another player and they don't come out with the puck, they're a horse-blank hockey player.' That's what it comes down to. Competitiveness, desire to win matters the most. It trumps talent." http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2016/12/jeff_blashill_red_wings_andrea.html
  6. Athanasiou Rumor

    What are you basing this on, though? We didn't do most of those things last year. If that's what he expects, he didn't get it. And in interviews, I never heard him say anything like "defence first." I feel like people see are struggling offence from last year and just load the blame on Blashill. Sure, he deserves some, but much is just the state of the team. We had a lot of underperforming players (Larkin, Nyquist, Sheahan etc) new inconsistent guys (AA, Mantha) loss of Pav's production, Defence is kind of a mess and forwards are compensating by playing more D...
  7. Athanasiou Rumor

    The KHL season already started. Most teams have already played 7-8 games of the 60 game season That doesn't mean he won't sign there, but I think it looks less likely that he'll go there. I mean, wouldn't he get a fraction of the 3 mill offer taken off for the missed games? if so, the financial incentive would get less and less as this continues.
  8. DRW Training Camp 2017

    Besides the goal, Cholo has looked impressive. Really composed with the puck. Doesn't ditch it when he gets pressure on.
  9. DRW Training Camp 2017

    Just turned it on. Oh hockey, how I've missed thee. GOAL!!!
  10. Athanasiou Rumor

    That's why I wrote the "ifs" in my post.
  11. Athanasiou Rumor

    I think it would all really depend on what AA's 3rd deal would be worth. Your guess of 2.8 seems low to me. But I know you had to put a number under the 3 mill KHL offer to make the argument that he'd make more in the long term by going there for a year. As a guy who score 18 goals in 64 games, that's on pace for 23 over 82. If that's who he is, even without improving, I don't think you're going to get that for 2.8 when he's up for free agency. But, anyway, I think most expect him to improve his game and if he's in line for a 3rd contract around the size of Nyquist or Tatar's then there's no question that he'd make more over the 3 years by staying in the NHL. As for the amount of the bridge deal - depending on whether it's right now as oppose to after a year in the KHL - I think it's very questionable that you grant him an increase of 500 000 thousand in your calculations. Would the Red WIngs really raise the offer based on results of his year in Russia? Not exactly sure, but I doubt it.
  12. DRW Training Camp 2017

    Looking forward the play-by-play call: "Holmstrom to Gilmour to Esposito over to Gallant." Probably never thought you'd hear those names together. (And, yes, then the too-many-men call because we'd have 4 forward on, haha)
  13. Athanasiou Rumor

    You can argue that we shouldn't have signed Daley, but not really the order of signings. The free agency period opens early and most desirable players are gone pretty much right away so you have to sign UFAs right away. It's very normal that RFAs get dealt with later. Anyway, I'm sure these negotiations got started quite a while ago and I doubt it was treated as an afterthought or whatever. I've got to do some fact checking on this. AA was 22 last year (apparently hish birfday is in Aug) and he was a regular (minus playoffs) in the second half the year before, so he really made the NHL at age 21. Compared to the norm for Red Wings prospects that is fast. But, yeah don't overpay the RFA. No matter what people think of his future, his NHL record so far is what dictates this contract.
  14. Athanasiou Rumor

    But isn't it AA's agent fault for get the KHL involved? Haven't seen any evidence of AA being mistreated in these negotiations. 1.9 is a fair offer. I'd be happy with 2.25, but I think Holland is right to shun any consideration of the KHL offer since it would set a dangerous precedent. And since the agent brought it up Holland is in a hard place where he can really raise the offer without seeming to give in due to a KHL offer. It's possible the agent hurt the negotiations and maybe even the likelihood of getting the offer raised by doing this. Not going to defend some of larger problems with the cap and some choices that got us there, but I think I can get out the trusty turd-polisher to see a bright side if AA goes to the KHL. On the one hand, we'll probably suck, but on the other hand, we'll probably suck and maybe get a shot at Dahlin or Svechnikov. Also, AA would come back and get the same deal they're offering now so we'll have him as a cheaper player for year longer into the rebuild which might help. But I'm pretty concerned about this - mostly for whether he'll want to sign on long term in the future or if this somehow bitters the relationship.
  15. Athanasiou Rumor

    1.25 is a low offer, but opening offers usually are. 1.9 is reasonable. I don't think it makes sense financially for him to go to the KHL for just 1 year at 3 mill. He'll make more than 3 when this 2 year deal is up. Over the 3 year period, then, he could end up making less. I guess if you're concerned with the olympics or immediate money then it could make sense, though. Still hope they're just trying get an extra 2-300 000 on the offer.