SouthernWingsFan

I'm still waiting for somebody to go all out with numbers. Wear something like 132 or mathematical formulas like e=mc2.

Wouldn't mind it. If so, I'd split up Lidstrom and Rafalski. Lidstrom-Ericsson Stuart-Kronwall Rafalski-Salei On the Power Play... Listrom-Rafalski Modano-Kronwall

Either/or works. Thanks. Three technically of course, point of mine basically being he's won two as the primary honcho.

You are out of your mind. Please show us how good those goalies are/were every bit as good. I'd love to see your reasoning. Out of those goalies, none outside of Irbe have taken their team to a Stanley Cup Final. Fernandez went to a conference final one time, splitting goaltending duties with Roloson in Minnesota in 2003. Tugnutt and Rhodes shared goaltending duties in Ottawa in the mid-90s and the best they could do was the conference semifinals one year. (If anybody else has extra stats/credentials to add on/refute me, please do so, this is based off my knowledge when I remembered players a lot more when I was younger). Osgood has done his fair share of helping his teams go to three Stanley Cup Finals and winning two of them. Of those three playoff years, he's had GAA's of 2.12, 1.55, and 2.01. He has over 70 playoff wins to his credit, and a save percentage of over 91.5% in the playoffs when it counts most. He only had one losing season so far, last year. Those are not mistakes. The only one in here so far who is overvaluing Osgood is eva unit zero. You, predictably, are undervaluing him. Everybody else here gets that he isn't elite, but he has pretty much always been servicable and reliable throughout his career.

You've got to be kidding me with those names. How many of those goalies have won a Stanley Cup? None. Only Irbe has come somewhat close. And Osgood has won two - one as a starter and one coming on in relief, when you come on in relief of somebody in the playoffs unexpectedly you're usually going golfing soon.

Play that Funky Music White Boy - Wild Cherry

Nope. Don't have a lot of excess stuff. The person below me has pulled on a cow's knockers before.

Heavy cream. Boot to the head or Paddle to the back

Nope. He's pretty much like you stated. Probably won't ever be recognized as elite. Sure, he had offensive-minded Wings help him out to a degree to get his wins. But he didn't make saves and get wins by accident anywhere he played, and he's done something right to get to 400 wins which he should finally crack this upcoming season. He's not as bad as some people portray because of a combination I think of Red Wings fans (generally speaking) being idiotic and beyond stupidly anal when it comes to goaltendeners, partially because he let in soft/long goals from the year 1203 (late 90s), and that as he went back to the Wings for his second go-round, he was never really the clear-cut number one starter those years and was probably considered the back up goalie when Hasek came back and definitely last year as time went on. More often than not, he's gotten the job done, and when it has counted most in the postseason when the Wings or other teams got eliminated earlier than usual, I can't really pin any playoff year elimination solely on him. Again, not elite and maybe not always consistent, but it's no accident that he's won a lot more than he's lost. Despite last year being bad, I'm glad he's still around. EDIT: On the big-money goaltenders, you really I think can only do so and get away with it for the best of the best (i.e. Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, etc.). Luongo is probably portrayed as the biggest salary goaltender of the present NHL but he hasn't gotten the job done the past few postseasons. Hell, Vancouver hasn't even been to the conference finals yet when he's been their goalie. He's definitely a solid goalie, but is he that worth the hype (yet?) to justify that salary? I think managers and fans alike are learning that goalies can only take you so far sometimes by themselves (fair/not, bad defense or lack of offense or whatever), and that bigger salaries need to be doled out firstly to defenders or offensive stars.

Sit. I've been doing it for years now, so at least I'm good at that. *shrugs* Eating dirt accidentally or smelling feces accidentally *shrugs*

Absolutely I did. The person below me can take this post and shovel it. *shrugs*

Osgood, more often than not always under-appreciated for his career. Last year obviously wasn't his year, partially due to him not fully putting the numbers up, and partially due to coaching decisions. I'm not going to get into how much I think coaching decisions to not put him in affect his play/lack thereof for once game during the new year or whatever. I'm all for Osgood staying here for as long as his body can hold it physically. I don't care if he's the backup now, I still dig him. Osgood :beerbuddy:

His spirit lives on!!!

Try to go to bed early when possible since I almost always wake up insanely early (on purpose) Wax on or Wax off

Not many, but I've seen it once. The person below me thinks this is funny (and what I meant to display this early morning but goofed up ).

That's the Way of the World - Earth Wind and Fire

Why are boogars not purple?

This thread makes Asham sad. A very sad panda.

Wheat Mooning somebody in the car alongside you or Making a funny face at somebody in the car alongside you

Not really, just usually wake up really early during the week on purpose. The person below me thinks this is funny.

Phil Collins - Take Me Home

Probably the last time that this was indirectly the subject of debate.

It's Opposites Day, so I'm going to be a dork and say that I LOVE shootouts.

Passion and caring too much is overrated. *shrugs*