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Why is that? He needs to learn and adapt to the north American gane. Being in frolunda slows his development further

Honestly this isn't even about who did what. This is about a company that's worth a billion dollars, burying a sexual assault claim by one if their employees so they could focus on hockey. This is about the mishandling of what should have been a cut and dry procedure. Instead they chose glory and fame over players safety. 
 
Don't forget they let him resign, gave him a letter of recommendation and deleted his employee files so there are no records of anything. 
 
If you think they handled this correctly then this conversation is finished. 
 
I'll let the court decide whether or not the sex was consensual or not. 

Well, the incident occurred during the 3rd round of the playoffs, he stated around until they won the cup. He got to join in the cup celebration, got to take the cup home for a day, got a cup ring, and then was asked to resign....
 
 
That doesn't sound fairly quick to me, that sounds like a couple months maybe

Nope. Reporting an incident your employee reports to you, to the league, would not open them up to a lawsuit. The incident was reported. Burying it was the thing that opens you up to a lawsuit, like literally they are being sued. 
 
I don't understand how people can be making excuses for this s***. This is 100x worse than anything babcock did and he got dragged hard for that. 
He went to the team for help, the hr department for help. Their job at that point, even if you say they can't call the cops, would be to assist him, and help him file a police report, if that's what he wants to do. Not parade the secual predator around like a show dog in front of the kid

Torts said on ESPN "If it was my boy, I would have wanted better" and that pretty much hits the nail on the head, you can turn it every way you want, Chicago failed to take appropriate action.

Hesitation because of liability after the fact. For 11 years. 
At the time they blatantly ignored the situation because they didn't want to disrupt their playoff run. This was coach Q's contribution to "the meeting" . 

It's very much true. They told him his azz was grass. But were nice enough to let him stick around and party with the boys first. Imagine that. " Hey pedo you're going to jail but first we need you to finish that ice cream route of yours" 
Basically, they were cowards and wanted this thing to disolve without drawing too much attention to it.

Wouldn't not reporting it to the league and police have been enough of a reason to have him agree to resign? 

Size has nothing to do with threatening or intimidating someone. Aldrich was part of the coaching staff and therefore had power over Beach. If he used that power to intimidate Beach into committing sexual acts that he otherwise would not commit, that would at least be sexual harassment. Whether or not that meets the legal requirement of "rape", or whether or not its considered "consensual" is a question for a lawyer. Which I definitely am not.
Regardless, what Aldrich did was wrong. And Beach could rightly be labeled a 'victim' IMO. There were things the Hawks should have done differently, but they also had their hands tied to some extent too. 

Really? 
 
Probably not buried it, suspend the coach immediately pending an investigation to start. Report it to the league, don't just say we're trying to win the cup and don't want to deal with it. 
 
FYI aldrich did this to multiple people after beach, including an intern, and a young person he coached after being let go from the Hawks. So ya, I'm sure he's just a great guy
I'm not sure if you are aware, physical strength doesn't always mean everything. Beach may be weak mentally and was made to feel like a small person, who would have no hockey future if he didn't cooperate. 
 
Had he said no and left, aldrich probably goes to the executives of the team and makes up some bs story to get him removed from the team, because obviously they cared more for him than a prospect anyway, they would have believed it

Really? 
 
Probably not buried it, suspend the coach immediately pending an investigation to start. Report it to the league, don't just say we're trying to win the cup and don't want to deal with it. 
 
FYI aldrich did this to multiple people after beach, including an intern, and a young person he coached after being let go from the Hawks. So ya, I'm sure he's just a great guy
I'm not sure if you are aware, physical strength doesn't always mean everything. Beach may be weak mentally and was made to feel like a small person, who would have no hockey future if he didn't cooperate. 
 
Had he said no and left, aldrich probably goes to the executives of the team and makes up some bs story to get him removed from the team, because obviously they cared more for him than a prospect anyway, they would have believed it

One more season of missing the playoffs and hopefully we're drafting within the bottom 5 where we have a legit chance of nabbing a quality center.

Thank you!

TIER 1: Projected elite NHL player
Andrei Svechnikov, LW (No. 2 pick) TIER 2: Projected bubble elite NHL player and NHL All-Star
Rasmus Dahlin, LHD (No. 1 pick) Quinn Hughes, LHD (No. 7 pick) TIER 3: Projected NHL All-Star
Brady Tkachuk, LW (No. 4 pick) TIER 4: Projected top of lineup player
Joel Farabee, LW (No. 14 pick) TIER 5: Projected bubble top and middle of lineup player
Ty Smith, LHD (No. 17 pick) Kirill Marchenko, RW (No. 49) Grigori Denisenko, LW (No. 15 pick) Rasmus Sandin, LHD (No. 29 pick) Nils Lundkvist, RHD (No. 28 pick) Barrett Hayton, C (No. 5 pick) Calen Addison, RHD (No. 53 pick) Jesperi Kotkaniemi, C (No. 3 pick) TIER 6: Projected middle of lineup player and starting goaltender
K’Andre Miller, LHD (No. 22 pick) Noah Dobson, LHD (No. 12 pick) Adam Boqvist, RHD (No. 8 pick) Alexander Romanov, LHD (No. 38 pick) Kevin Bahl, LHD (No. 55 pick) Ty Dellandrea, C (No. 13 pick) Ivan Morozov, C (No. 61 pick) Liam Foudy, LW (No. 18 pick) Jacob Bernard-Docker, RHD (No. 26 pick) Filip Zadina, RW (No. 6 pick) Evan Bouchard, RHD (No. 10 pick) Yegor Sharangovich, LW (No. 141 pick) Sampo Ranta, LW (No. 78 pick) Vitali Kravtsov, RW (No. 9 pick) David Gustafsson, C (No. 60 pick) Oliver Wahlstrom, RW (No. 11 pick) Joe Veleno, C (No. 30 pick) Rasmus Kupari, C (No. 20 pick) Ryan Merkley, RHD (No. 21 pick) Jan Jenik, C (No. 65 pick) Alexander Alexeyev, LHD (No. 31 pick) Jonatan Berggren, LW (No. 33 pick) Akil Thomas, C (No. 51 pick) Benoit-Olivier Groulx, C (No. 54 pick) Joel Hofer, G (No. 107 pick) Lukas Dostal, G (No. 85 pick) Scott Perunovich, LHD (No. 45 pick)

So your plan is to bait people into insulting you, so you can act the victim? Yet you use borderline racism and insults to do it? You're just as bad or worse than any right wing anti Vax person and give liberals a bad name. 

So your plan is to bait people into insulting you, so you can act the victim? Yet you use borderline racism and insults to do it? You're just as bad or worse than any right wing anti Vax person and give liberals a bad name. 

So your plan is to bait people into insulting you, so you can act the victim? Yet you use borderline racism and insults to do it? You're just as bad or worse than any right wing anti Vax person and give liberals a bad name. 

Weren't you wrong about Seider too? Why are we even reading your posts LOL

I'll agree  he won't hit 1000. I say he retires around 950

Holy overpayments, Batman.

Saying we're going to stink with him is a bit of a stretch imo. Even losing games I don't think we will stink this year, nor like the past couple anyway. 
 
Also were about 2 pieces away not 4. Top pairing D, and a top line center

What I'm getting from this is...
Raymond + playoffs
vs.
No Raymond + no playoffs + drafting 6-10th overall

NICE TRY, LOTTO GODS, BUT WE DON'T ANSWER TO YOU ANYMORE. #KissMyTuchusGiveMeLucas

They've both been phenomenal. 
 
I'm going to call it now though. Lucas Raymond goes down as the best player drafted in 2020. Not Lafreniere, not Byfield, not stutzle, but Raymond!

After spending his first three seasons in Grand Rapids. 

They've both been phenomenal. 
 
I'm going to call it now though. Lucas Raymond goes down as the best player drafted in 2020. Not Lafreniere, not Byfield, not stutzle, but Raymond!