lwing

To everyone here, this is not a joke. I want to offer a sincere apology. You are all here to have fun and I have acted like a total immature jerk. I would never act like this in person and I would be incredibly embarrassed if I ever did. I am embarrassed now and I apologize for being disrespectful, disruptive and wasting your time.
A few weeks ago, during my suspension here, we a family member had a serious accident. It made me think about what is important and how to treat people. A nasty troll posting an apology to a bunch of strangers on a hockey forum might seem ridiculous, but I wanted to do it.
I don’t know if I can have my account deleted, but I am going to enter in some password I can’t remember so I will essentially lock myself out. Not because I think I can’t control myself, but because even though the mods gave me another chance, I really don’t deserve it. Okay, another reason is I’m sure I could never regain any kind of reputation here, but I promise I won’t create another account and pretend to be someone else.
Please enjoy your forum and best of luck to all of you.

Now now, unless you cite three reputable sources (in APA format no less) your opinion will not be considered valid here. There are high standards at play here and Blashill's incompetence will only be determined by a peer review process of the evidence. 

Oh my God what an incredibly stupid thing to say about investments. Is this some of that "working class wisdom" someone mentioned earlier? Obviously you have no investments to speak of and/or know nothing about them. Remember Brexit? I lost about 2% of my total investments in a day. Why, because I have a well balanced asset allocation. 101 investment there bucko. Instead of running for the hills I bought even more international stock index funds (always buy low and sell high) and I have made a killing - about $200k.
Perhaps my late reply serves my point. Rather than wasting endless hours writing 1000-2000 word simple minded tomes and believing my self-esteem, or anything of any real-world value, is tied to my participation in something as banal as a hockey forum, I have spent the past few months being a productive member of society and increasing my net worth. 
So many of your long-winded assumptions are so simple minded and utterly predictable.
1. That I am a phoney. Trust me I have money. Am I the richest person you ever met? Of course not. However, I make a good six figure salary, have saved/invested 30% or more of my salary for 25 years resulting in a multiple seven figure retirement fund. If that makes you envious, then get off your a$$ ike I did.
2. That I only value money and am a sad lonely person. I have an advanced degree and paid for 100% of my education myself. My work has benefited people both directly and invaluably as well as collectively in via published and highly cited research contributing to human knowledge. I did none of this alone, but with many other hard working people. I could have made MUCH more in industry. I have plenty of friends and family too. Money is not the end for me, it is the means to have control of my life so I can help those I care about.
My point from the beginning was this forum has its little in-groups and self-anointed gurus whose big accomplishment in life has been exceeding the 1,000 post mark. Can you imagine these jokers doing this at “work” all day? Some job huh? if you find yourself thinking this is a good job to have, I have a hint. Loser.
For those aspiring to be “in” - there is a better way. Accomplish something REAL in the WORLD. When you do, like I have, your forum heroes are revealed as a sad pathetic joke. People who spend what must be an hour or two a day posting “well crafted” arguments that accomplish... what? Absolutely zero. Take that same hour or two a day toward learning R, SQL, Python, html… and add some math, statistics or business. In six months to a year, instead of racking up a collection of meaningless online hockey buddies (and adversaries), you will open the door to making good money, having a real career and being your own boss.
It is plain as day. Your "leaders" here are real life losers. 

Chill then Richie Rich

That line-up is something else.

Ah the old "do you know who I am?" line.  Same line Pat Kane uses to wheel broads at the bar. Classic.

Good to have those standards. I'm kind of a lurker, but I fully expected this kind of response as soon as I read the news. No shortage of research on this - many of us fail to recognize or act as if there were real humans on he other side of the screen. I have a theory though. Many of the people who like each other online would probably not in person, as well as the opposite. Then again I never had to experience online dating! Thank the Lord. As for Ericcson, I hope it isn't a career damaging injury. Some of the pitiless anger here is a symptom of frustration on this team and managements failure to bring up young players and make older players accountable. Yes that is super frustrating, but it shouldn't lead to gloating when a real human is hurt. 

Good to have those standards. I'm kind of a lurker, but I fully expected this kind of response as soon as I read the news. No shortage of research on this - many of us fail to recognize or act as if there were real humans on he other side of the screen. I have a theory though. Many of the people who like each other online would probably not in person, as well as the opposite. Then again I never had to experience online dating! Thank the Lord. As for Ericcson, I hope it isn't a career damaging injury. Some of the pitiless anger here is a symptom of frustration on this team and managements failure to bring up young players and make older players accountable. Yes that is super frustrating, but it shouldn't lead to gloating when a real human is hurt. 

Good to have those standards. I'm kind of a lurker, but I fully expected this kind of response as soon as I read the news. No shortage of research on this - many of us fail to recognize or act as if there were real humans on he other side of the screen. I have a theory though. Many of the people who like each other online would probably not in person, as well as the opposite. Then again I never had to experience online dating! Thank the Lord. As for Ericcson, I hope it isn't a career damaging injury. Some of the pitiless anger here is a symptom of frustration on this team and managements failure to bring up young players and make older players accountable. Yes that is super frustrating, but it shouldn't lead to gloating when a real human is hurt. 

The Wings press conference I hope to see in the near future. Holland on the left, Blashill on the right.
FYI, the part where the one person yells to not end his suffering just quite yet. That was for Clearly.
 

How can so many things be bad? A great question, but the answer is ultimately simple. Years and years of a failed (or non existent) strategy by management. No vision, no willingness to take risks, no ability to make deals, no accountability, no plan for young player development... coupled with endless excuses on why nothing else can be done and to expect mediocrity. You reap what you sow and in this case we have sown nothing. The buck stops nowhere. The playoff streak will end this year and with that little bandaid ripped off, perhaps ownership will finally have the smarts to dump Blashill and Holland and then pick up the mess they have left us.  

How can so many things be bad? A great question, but the answer is ultimately simple. Years and years of a failed (or non existent) strategy by management. No vision, no willingness to take risks, no ability to make deals, no accountability, no plan for young player development... coupled with endless excuses on why nothing else can be done and to expect mediocrity. You reap what you sow and in this case we have sown nothing. The buck stops nowhere. The playoff streak will end this year and with that little bandaid ripped off, perhaps ownership will finally have the smarts to dump Blashill and Holland and then pick up the mess they have left us.  

How can so many things be bad? A great question, but the answer is ultimately simple. Years and years of a failed (or non existent) strategy by management. No vision, no willingness to take risks, no ability to make deals, no accountability, no plan for young player development... coupled with endless excuses on why nothing else can be done and to expect mediocrity. You reap what you sow and in this case we have sown nothing. The buck stops nowhere. The playoff streak will end this year and with that little bandaid ripped off, perhaps ownership will finally have the smarts to dump Blashill and Holland and then pick up the mess they have left us.  

How can so many things be bad? A great question, but the answer is ultimately simple. Years and years of a failed (or non existent) strategy by management. No vision, no willingness to take risks, no ability to make deals, no accountability, no plan for young player development... coupled with endless excuses on why nothing else can be done and to expect mediocrity. You reap what you sow and in this case we have sown nothing. The buck stops nowhere. The playoff streak will end this year and with that little bandaid ripped off, perhaps ownership will finally have the smarts to dump Blashill and Holland and then pick up the mess they have left us.  

I have to agree with this point of view. Leadership in the office and on the bench is weak. There is no vision, no strategy, no meritocracy, and no accountability. I think we have all worked for lousy bosses and clueless leaders and, while I obviously don't have the inside scoop, there are more than enough symptoms and warning signs. Blashill's reaction to AA is a good one. Last year he put out an absurd defense for his keeping his minutes down despite his production and I see his most recent comments much less about motivating a young player than covering his a$$ (CYA) and not being remotely able to consider he was wrong. Unlike Blashill, AA responded like a pro and won our game with Philly. Holland did a similar petty CYA job in throwing Mantha under the bus in the press last year. Players admit mistakes and bad games all the time. I have yet to hear a single admission of anything from Blashill or Holland.
I think it's a safe assumption that both AA and Mantha will think about how they have been scapegoated when making future decisions on where they want to play and it won't be Detroit, an organization that used to inspire a lot of loyalty, teamwork, and sacrifice among players of all ages. Blashill won't last, and his demise is inevitable. He can't go soon enough for me. Until he does, this team and its fans will be dragged down by his incompetence and failure to be a true leader worthy of genuine respect.  
It's unfair to compare anyone to Bowman, but if anyone responds that Bowman also called out people, I would argue he did it in a very calculating way to get the most from a player and not to deflect any blame from his own decisions. It is subtle, but it's the difference between a leader/boss you can't respect or trust, and one you will practically kill yourself to do everything you can to impress and gain back his respect. 

LIke I said, the "kids" back in the early 90's were played every night and were allowed to lose and grow and learn to play together....that was when Devellano and Murray were here, then Bowman.  We're seeing how much Holland values his "kids" and we're seeing what Blashill thinks of icing a team of kids and letting them learn and grow. I don't care what your pay check is, if you aren't playing up to professional status, you sit. Sorry, this is a business and fans pay YUGE amounts of cash to see a team play well, win or lose, the want to see a competitive team, not this dump and chase, clear off the boards, throw to an open wing and ***** foot passes around instead of shooting type game we are seeing. This is garbage hockey, and the garbage coaching is hindering the development of the like of Larkin, AA, Sproul, etc...
I seriously thought we were getting a good coach that would change the philosophy here....nope.
I agree, but Mantha on the 4th line won't.  We all know there has to be a piano mover on every flipping line so there is no way Mantha would help us if he is inserted on the 4th because Abby and Sheahan have to be top 6.  Then Blashill will say how much Mantha isn't working hard enough and how he didn't like 10 minutes of his play...all while outplaying most of the team.

I'm facing my own job review this week and I find myself thinking, "Gee this would be so easy if Holland was my boss!" Big raise and long term security for mediocre results.
Fortunately my boss and I have higher standards.
Unfortunately the Wings standards of individual performance are going to pile up and hurt our future. If only the playoff streak had been broken last year, where would we be now...

You know when you are at a job interview, they always ask, "Where do you see yourself in five years?" I guess Holland takes care of answering that question for everyone on the team.

You know when you are at a job interview, they always ask, "Where do you see yourself in five years?" I guess Holland takes care of answering that question for everyone on the team.

You know when you are at a job interview, they always ask, "Where do you see yourself in five years?" I guess Holland takes care of answering that question for everyone on the team.

That isn't very European. I do hope he apologized via a handwritten note on delicate hand made paper and sent some chocolate to the poor D man.

You know when you are at a job interview, they always ask, "Where do you see yourself in five years?" I guess Holland takes care of answering that question for everyone on the team.

The issue isn't necessarily about Glendening, it's about having several young forwards who are at least potentially NHL players in the next 2-3 years and Holland handing out 4 year or more contracts to guys who could easily be replaced and refusing to trade anyone else because it's hard.

I want to answer this in a very respectful way. What bothers me, and I'm sure others, is the lack of any proactive strategy by Holland. He seems completely incapable of making any bold moves. He is entirely reactive and far too safe by only going for what is available for purchase vs. applying any creativity or risk to making deals with what we have. This is further compounded by his endless excuses and arguments that the decisions he has made were the only decisions possible. Too many of us buy into this and respond, "What else was he supposed to do?" The lack of vision goes beyond Holland to many fans. We have been duped.
Add to this his completely outdated mindset on treating hungry young skilled players like they need to be on training wheels until they are 26 while sticking with a growing roster of underperforming and overpaid mid level veterans. I think his lack of strategic thinking and planning was illustrated most with Lidstrom. Of course you can never ever ever replace him, but where was the plan to even try and fill that massive gaping hole? The attempt to get Suter? That was it? That was the only card in his hand? A smart GM living in reality would have been developing multiple options for the inevitable retirement of #5 including combinations of draft picks, trades for players, trades of picks, free agents... all cultivated over many years. Or truly pathetic D corp is glaring evidence of KH's lack of not just "genius" but competence.
Let's now add to the mix some contracts and decisions. Weiss (while letting Flip go). Franzen over Hossa. Tootoo for how many years? Bringing back Sammy and Cleary? Erricsson? So many more... Dear God, how can anyone claim even one of those deals was the sign of genius? Oh, just wait and see where Blashill is in a year or two.
As for offense there seems to have been some planning (and luck) for the inevitable loss of Dats and Hank with Larkin, AA, Mantha and a few others, but all too little and too late by keeping most of these kids on GR training wheels so we can do what, extend the streak? You can argue about that, but there is one more thing that screams idiocy to me. What GM calls out a player like Mantha and literally insults him in the press? Even if it is true, how incredibly stupid is that? Thinking ahead, if/when KH would ever consider trading Mantha, I'd be the first GM to pull out those articles/quotes as a bargaining chip.

Kenny never fails for God sakes