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Let's turn the argument around. We can't trade both. We should trade one, for two reasons (at the least): * Their total salary sum is excessive with no basis in regards to our current situation. * Given our progress curve on how likely we are to make the finals, one should be traded. In short, we need a prospect up. Or a bad backup. Mrazek was the easiest to trade. He is younger, has shown flashes of brilliance and was on the incline. Do I like it? Slightly no. Does it matter, judging from our team, in a snapshot of the present? Not a bit. Opinion: trade both, I'd say. But I do understand if that seems harsh.

Tatar trade an unexpected nice payoff. Green Should have been traded, it is blasphemy and heresy not to. Even a 3rd would have been acceptable given the info we recieved right after the deadline. I am sure something could have been arranged like krsmith mentioned in the post just before mine. C-

Atleast we could have traded frigging Glendenning to Toronto for a 6th or something?? It's bab's boy after all. Just to lessen the sour aftertaste from this ugly Green drink.

Heck maybe Green just said no. Not everyone wants go move just to get a cup. Actually most probably don't. Heck if I know.

Erhm.. I am having my second glass of white wine while listening to Dr. Bart Ehrman, professor of religious studies at Chapel Hill, NC. ^^

Thats like 75 to 1. No dice.

I would be honestly surprised if Green didn't go to Washington or Tampa. Question is for what. Willing to take bets.

Hold your horses, filthy mob. I am convinced Holland is milking it, he probably has a 2nd rounder offered for him and working the clock to get a first. If I'm wrong bring out the tar and feathers, we gonna dip his butt.

I agree with all your points. But they should be called the Soviet five. Or Red army five. Completely incarcerated, indoctrinated for one purpose. Could they play? The best Tarasov hockey the world ever saw. Pure art.

Very much so. Bet aside we should have won that game. With that said the loss dropped me to two Franklin bills in Red Wings earnings this year. I am cashing in, this team will be in flux the coming months, most bets would be erratic. I promise to buy a Dahlin or Svechnikov jersey from the earnings if we get one of them. If not it'll all go on booze and women.

Chaps80, I hear you, and valid points at that. I am unsecure of who will replace Mrazek aswell. However, given this season, and most likely the next, we actually need a bad goalie. I don't know for sure, but this might be Holland pulling the bathtub plug. It would in fact be an effective way to climb in the draft while still asking the younglings to go all out. Not saying it's right, but food for thought.

A blasphemic and heretic loss. Lidström shudders from his couch, if he ever watches these games. I just hope we can get the kids in a winning spirit once we get the right tools to the shed, they have and will be experiencing a lot of losses. Hopefully it won't tarnish them.

A game we will likely win and no scribblings in the thread? I am betting on a victory. We are a clear favorite in this one, which is quite a rarity these days. I am suspending our goal to drop as low as possible for this game, I want us dropping Buffalo.

I have been praising for a tank some time now, albeit in a low key fashion. The talent we pick up needs to be fairly on par with what we will put our efforts on, being the usual suspects, Larks, Mantha, AA, a bubbler or two who shines up when they get the chance. So we need them now, not a few years from now in order to grow to a cohesive unit.

A good, solid move. Gets the Jacksoni stamp of approval. He was worth literally eastern european peanuts early autumn. Now we get two middle round picks for him. Hallelujah.

Good game, good loss. And a good 18 bucks for me. Nylander needs to learn to play defense, his loss of Zetterberg when he scored was a shameful display.

That's right. And I would say they are right in thinking so. Our team is bad. Every loss is a win counting towards the draft. With that said every game I watch I want us winning. Contradiction? Absolutely. It boils down to human nature if you ask me. In the end though I want what's best for our team long term, and right now that is getting stripped, dipped in tar and rolled in feathers, landing comfortably close to Arizona amongst the bottom feeders. 20 bucks on Toronto.

If so, it's a legit move. Props. He is our golden calf right now.

TBL isn't just good, they do it in a business-like fashion. I hold them as The prime favorite to win it all this season. Their backend could use some help, maybe Green(?) but their offense is just plain old deadly, Stamkos and Kucherov feels like a snake about to attack once they get to collect themselves in the offensive zone. The Captain getting it done on all levels. Bah.

If we are to let the new guard play for real and learn then we have to accept wins like this, which to most of us here are losses now really. Our hopes lies in losing long term this season statistically, which probably will happen to some degree given the season history. Bottom five would be ideal for me come draft lottery day but I'd take bottom 7 hands down. Very unlikely to land Orr, I mean Dahlin but I am fine with having a Chance to get him.

You are right on, lots of things need to happen for any hockey team in any league to surrender a 3 goal lead in 15 minutes. Lack of confidence. No set defensive playstyle, ie posture/scheme. Expecting the loss. Bad luck. I believe it's a good loss, stated earlier. This is a back-breaker. We have had some of those this year. But this one was Bad. Veterans will want to get out. Kids need a reset. Which is what I think we need, so no harm done truth be told.

He did well. A long time ago. Present day, not so much, although he had some hightlights such as the Brendan Smith trade. He (KH) should have left 3-5 years ago - about when he started stating that the cap and draft would lead to parity. Now, some thought is needed here, Ken Holland is correct about that - cap and the draft setup does set it up for most teams to fall on a line with minor variation long term statistically - if those two key variables were the only affecting ones in regards to winning percentage. I would say that above two variables are the major ones, but by no means the only ones of course. Strategy, correct utilization, team 'spirit', a culture of winning does a lot as well. But that's not my point, which is that when Ken Holland says cap and parity 'is what it is', I sense acceptance from him regarding this. Which is the last thing I want. . I want a general manager either avoiding the question while doing whatever legal he/she/it can do to maximize our winning percentage And herein lies a problem which goes for all teams. What can you do if you have to fall in line? I foresee corruption, bribes and false testimony because of the rules. The premise is simple. Win more, earn more. Rules doesn't allow it. So circumvent the rules, preferably under the hood. A mechanic as old as man itself.

A beautiful loss. Wish it was on regular time though. Now drop what you can and keep everything young. We might not win a lot but it'd be fun to watch.

Hah. What a story, completely fubar. Glad we dropped him, that was a right move if any. Happy ******* birthday. I still hold a hard grudge against him for pushing the puck while sitting on the bench on to the ice in the playoffs against the Lightning resulting in an automatic penalty. For me, that is simply unacceptable. I would have dropped him on the spot and let the lawyers handle it.