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I guess I missed it with all the "Yzerman is an imbecile" talk. I'm an insufferable sock puppet anyway, hardly needed during the summer doldrums.

Let's hope so. It's crossed my mind that the Wings may finally have found a guy that can be some portion of what Lidstrom was to the Wings. I doubt Seider gets treated like other Wing's defensive prospects. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if 53 was a full time Wing by the start of 2021. The kid will be what? ...still 19? The kid is special and I think his handling by Detroit brass will show it. He(and Ras) were already the last of the prospects to be sent down this year.

This Dylan Larkin? He seems to have turned out alright despite having been a Griffin.

1) ...but the only reason Seider could be put in the AHL by the Wings is because Yzerman drafted him! You can just assume Holland would have done likewise, but you'll never be able to prove it. What actually happened is Yzerman drafted an apparently great prospect and then sent him to the AHL because he thinks it will be best for him in the long run. Assuming nothing is changed after a GM change is convenient, but cannot be substantiated in any way. 2) So you're saying Yzerman(Canadian) would ignore an equally or more talented US or Canadian born player to draft a less talented or equally talented Euro player? He's had 11 picks and the top pick was a Euro that we both like. Not only is the sample size tiny, but what picks did SY made that you dislike? Which non-Euros should he have taken and who should've remained undrafted by the Wings? 3) Fil is evidence that the Wings needed temporary depth at center(which they do). Fil is a known quantity on a short contract and a reasonable cap hit. Further, Fil is an Yzerman "guy" who will help, not hinder the development of the young guys. Yeah, he's a guy Holland too would have signed, because the signing makes sense. Now would Holland have signed him to 2 x 3m? I dunno. Holland often gave out more term than I thought he should have...Yzerman did not do that here. 4) Yzerman isn't Holland though. Yzerman didn't sign Gator, Helm, Daley, or Ericsson. He hasn't done anything wrong yet. Why doesn't he get credit for doing things you like(drafting Seider), but he gets run down for allegedly being "just like Holland" when he hasn't yet done anything silly like Holland did? If SY picks up Luke Schenn on waivers and then signs him next year to 3-5 years then I'll be right with you, but he's not going to do that...though I wouldn't have put it past Holland. Yzerman ≠ Holland based on the few decisions he has made to date as the GM of the Detroit Red Wings. 6) Again, I'd prefer Seider was with the Wings and not in GR, but it's a rational, reasonable, logical decision to send him to GR. Top pairing AHL duty is not going to harm his development, it's going to get him conditioned for more responsibility. There are more guys to consider here. Also again, I'd like Bowey and Cholowski to see as much ice as possible and this accomplishes that as well. It's a disappointing decision, but it's not a big deal...particularly when you consider the lack of durability of guys like Green, Daley, or E. Who's the first call up now when one of these guys inevitably get hurt? It ain't Cholowski or Mc Isaac. I expect Seider will be up with the Wings soon anyway, and if it's Seider or Cholowski now, I'd like it to be Seider, but Cholowski has earned that spot. It's not like they stuck Lashoff in that spot or something. Cholowski and Hronek have paid dues...Seider has not. He also drafted the same Dman...still boggled as to why he doesn't get any credit for that.

Nice choice. I'd probably tear up watching the Joe being demolished.

I could dig it if SY had signed Vanek to a 3 year deal. If he'd given Flip 4 - 5 years etc. He didn't. He hasn't done anything to handicap the Wings rebuild to my mind. His moves thus far have been very hands off. I'm not so sure Holland would have been as restrained with all that cap space...and I had nightmares about what Holland may have done with all the cap space the Wings will have next year this time. Stevie having it, doesn't bother me. He hasn't done anything dumb yet.

1) It appears that Yzerman drafted a fantastic player. Again, neither of us have any idea if Holland would have drafted the same player. The last time Holland had a 6th round pick to work with, he chose Zadina. It wasn't a reach at all. You're not making sense. How can you say you love the pick and still bash Yzerman for making it? If you'd like to blame him for the things you dislike, that's fine, but he gets credit also for the things he's done that you do like. 2) Yeah, they both like Euros. Yzerman thought those were the best uses of those selections. So far, I don't think he was wrong. This is the Red Wings after all...the last two captains were Euros and amazing players at that. 3) Except that it's "just like Holland". lol 4) Agree. Glad Seider is the guy with a 3 year ELC and not Nemeth. Thank you SY. 6) I don't know how much time TOI Seider would get in either case...and neither do you. In GR he's likely top dog, certainly top pairing. In Detroit he's probably 2nd or 3rd pairing at this point. I rather see him with the Wings too, but he's going to be up against the AHL's best, not scrubs, and he's going to see lots of North American ice. Fact is, the Wings aren't likely to sit a healthy E or Daley and I also want Bowey and Cholowski to get lots of time. This gets all that done. As I said, it's a predictable decision.

1) It was a 6th. Yzerman reached for Seider. Would Holland have made the same decision? ...I don't know...neither of us do. Reducing it to a generic "reach" is a strawman. A strawman wasn't drafted 6th by Detroit. Moritz Seider was and Steve Yzerman is ultimately responsible for that decision. 2) SY did draft a bunch of Euros with his first 11 picks as GM. Are you in some way displeased with his selections? I am not. 3) I don't have an issue with the Filppula signing...it's only 2x$3m and he's still got some game. 4) Presumably you're referring to Nemeth. Again it's a 2x$3m and the Wings have plenty of cap space. Not sure I get the point here. 5) 1 year of a 24yo @ $1.05m? That's really a big deal? 6) Agree that Seider is close to NHL ready, but he's only 18yo. Top line duty for the Griffins is hardly a sentence to the gulag and he may learn a lot being paired with...presumably Lashoff. Not seeing the problem.

Yeah, he's probably been exposed to your inability to say what you mean longer than I. Apologies for being less effective at deciphering your incorrectly worded questions than others. So whose sock am I bud? If you're going to make an accusation...back it up slick. ...or keep sniping and being a coward about it. At this point I've no respect for you anyway. You could have just as easily said, "yeah I meant that and not what I wrote". Instead you start lobbing insults like you know me.

Sending Seider down was predictable though. I rather see Daley or E sit so he can stay up with the team as well, but it's not much of a shocker. Yzerman has only been at the helm a few months, it seems a little premature to write him off. He did select Seider after all and just assuming Holland would have done likewise is dubious logic at best. You're frustrated...we all are, but Yzerman should get a couple years to right the ship.

Ah, I guess writing isn't your strong suit then eh? Guess we should all know what you meant to say and ignore what you actually said. Maybe just type "line combinations" next time instead of "roster"? Just a suggestion to help you not seem stupid as a rock. lol So whose "sock" do you think I am...junior? Maybe one of the reasons there aren't a lot of people on this board is that some people treat new people like crap.

Never heard of any "waiver queue" either. The team with the worst record gets the player if multiple claims are made, but there's no queue to my knowledge. I know there's a transfer fee that the claiming team must pay to the team that waived the player, but it doesn't count against the cap anyway.

They have a ummm...website bruh. https://griffinshockey.com/team/roster Not sure who this Lashoff character is though. Looks a bit like KFQ as a caveman. heh

Good info. It'll come in handy when uncle Gary finally lets the Wings win the draft lottery AND gives them a bonus 1st rounder for being such a dink all these years.

Risto would be expensive...and while he's a gifted offensive guy, he's lousy in his own end. I don't think he's worth what Buffalo will be looking for. If the Wings were going to add a veteran Dman, it should've been someone like Gardiner. Doesn't make a bunch of sense to give up picks + prospects just to help the Wings suck a little less. Plus it'd just be another guy blocking the kids that are ready.