shocky2002

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22839747/the-20-most-dominant-champions-20-years-sports Interesting list.. the 2013 Blackhawks come in 4th for no real reason, they only won the title because Boston was severely injured.. other than that I've always maintained that 2008>>>2002.. Very few Red Wings fans think this because of the names associated with the 2002 roster, but the 08 Wings would've crushed the 02 team in a hypothetical match up.. the D-core in 2008 was much, much better.. and Datsyuk/Zetterberg in their primes were better than Yzerman and Feds at that point of their careers tbh.. the only advantage for 2002 is in goal

Pittsburgh is the better team, but they don't have home ice, and Malkin/Hagelin are out in game 1. The vegas series odds has shifted from Pittsburgh being a 54% favorite to about 51%. If Malkin isn't 100%, it's a virtual coin flip imo. Any takes such as "Washington chokers! Pittsburgh proven!" come from stupid people who do not matter.

Is a 4-0 sweep bait? Go tell me more about how playoff hockey is a different game and experience matters, and other s***ty narratives used to justify your lazy takes.

The LA Kings experience will pull through when they are down 3-0 I guess

Knights totally outplayed LAK throughout the series. So much for 'playoff experience'. AKA a dumb narrative that lazy people use Goalies outperforming their ability = fluke. We know this as Red Wings fans. Detroit lost series to Calgary, Edmonton, Pittsburgh in 09 in large part to bad luck. MAF is the most overrated goalie of all time when you look at his career numbers as a whole.

Lol what a clueless post. The Caps dominated the series last year but lost because of MAF. You think last year's Caps team became 'average' because OMG its the playoffs, sorry, but that's just idiocy.

The Kings' playoff experience is letting Vegas go up 1-0 so they can do the epic series comeback strategy

Can't remember the last classic playoff series. Maybe Kings/Blackhawks in 2014. NHL postseason is so overrated.

Not sure what people see in the Kings other than "they have experience" and "they are proven in the playoffs". This team is so slow, in a league where speed is everything.

Pittsburgh is easily going to make it out of their bracket IMO.. Washington is a fraud team this year. Columbus not quite good enough yet. Pittsburgh/Boston/Tampa/Nashville. I can't see a cup winner other than these 4 teams.

Zetterberg is better than both of them IMO

He shouldn't have been, IMO. I trust metrics more than anything else, and they tell me that Brian Rafalski in 08 was better than Chelios at any point during his Red Wings caerer. (Devils Ralfaski was better than Chelios anyways) I consider Kronwall and Stuart both about a wash.

Hockey fans are enamored by names, tbh.. Chelios in 2002 would be the 5th best defenseman on 2008.. Chicago's best team was the one with Byfuglien.. I think everyone in the hockey world knew they were winning the cup that year from the onset..

You must not understand the point of puck possession then. It only matters so much if you have decent goaltending and you can limit opposing team's scoring chances, both in which the Blackhawks are terrible at. They don't have any issues controlling the puck otherwise. As far as your hatred of analytics goes, They won 3 titles in 6 years leading the league in Corsi. The Penguins repeated as the leader in Corsi. The worst corsi team of the past 5 years has been Arizona and Buffalo. Interesting.

Has a lot to do with their D-core, no goaltending. Not Toews.

I am LOLing at people who think this is an atrocious deal for Vegas. They did the right thing by buying and going hard for the cup. There's a decent chance that they won't be nearly this good for the next 3 years. Why not just go for it all now?

Great haul for sure. Tatar is a really good player despite having a couple of down seasons in a row (mostly due to coaching and bad chemistry due to constant line changes). It's hard to look at his puck possession metric from 2013-15 and not be impressed. I really think he's better than Rick Nash, whom the Bruins grossly overvalued. Still, this is a deal that you make ten times out of ten.

Btw, Toews has actually had a good year. He was overrated last year and in 2016. But not anymore. Hawks have really solid possession metrics with him on the ice vs off.

Morey then. The Rockets are far closer to a title than the Celtics are.

It wasby far the most boring stretch of hockey if you weren't a Wings fan. 4 years of dead puck, a lockout, the dreadful Eastern conference, etc. The Hawks 2009-15 run was the most entertaining period of hockey in the modern era

if you had to bet

The NHL also has a nepotism problem, on top of that.

I hope they win. The league isn't as fun when the Hawks are bad. They're nowhere near the suckage of the Red Wings for years to come. Hawks are a 2 year re-tool away from being back in the mix. Red Wings, about 5 years after Holland leaves.

Best GM in the league is most certainly not Ainge, but Bob Myers. the Warriors are ones with the dynasty, not Boston. Although Ainge hires analytical guys around him anyway. How's Michael Jordan doing as GM? Doc Rivers? Vlade? Not so well. Jesus, dude. That was so corny. I bet you're still seething over that comment. Haha

MLB- every (successful) front office is hiring analytical, computer geeks NBA- same as MLB NFL- the greatest football mind of all time is the GM of the Patriots, everyone else is so much below them (even though they did lose the SB because of a funky playcall) NHL- former players, former players, former players