ChristopherReevesLegs

I mean if Holland & the scouts have an eye on some gems that they think won't get selected, sure go get a 7th. I'm thinking Smith and Ott may not even be worth a 7th to a lot of teams. Better guys out there that may be available. And once those 5-10 teams get the guy they want, no ones going to a pay a nickel for Ott or Smith.

Well the statements he made are not incorrect. You don't sell for the sake of selling, and yes only about 10 teams, maybe less, are going to be serious buyers. Guys like Smith and Ott may have little to no value on the market, and giving them away to a contender for next to nothing doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I doubt Holland will even shop Green at this deadline. I expect he will get lots of calls about Vanek though. That's pretty much a guaranteed move at this point.

He's having a fantastic year. Sambrook as well. This team hasn't developed a Top 4 D-man in a very long time. It's time to start.

I actually think Babs used E appropriately. A conpliment to a top piece like Kronwall. Now that Kronwall sucks thou E is just as useless. Blash hasnt learned

Hey we might get a 7th for him...

Kliq, good luck. Clearly he's not mad about the actual trade, he's mad Neilsen was signed.

He's had the better career since he parted ways with us. Granted he inherited a team with Hedman and Stamkos. Hollands career should not be discredited because of the currrent state of the team. He has more accomplishments than most GMs will ever dream of. That being said, Id still rather have Yzerman. Cup or not, it's clear he's in tune with todays game.

No worries, I knew it wasn't you Ken

Which one did you skip?

LGW is a Bing family sir

Jared's bangs were covering his beautiful eyes, Gus was only trying to brush them aside

Did some quick calculations on what that might look like, and this is what computer spit out... (From left to right) Love Zetterberg, Pavel Jr, and... ehhh Brett Hull, he's involved somehow.

So say Vegas wants to sign Vanek as their selection from Detroit. They offer him 4 million for 3 years, but Vanek says no, so they enter the expansion draft and select Howard as their Detroit selection. After the expansion Vanek signs with Detroit for 4 million for 3 years, citing his love for the team and the city. Is what we did illegal?

We sent a 1st to Tampa for Quincey. Holland couldn't get the deal done with Sakic, so Yzerman swapped Downie for Quincey, then immediately turned around and swapped Quincey for our 1st. It was obviously a coordinated effort by old pals Yzerman and Holland, and I believe Sakic had some negative comments about it afterward.

Holland and Yzerman had to pull their shady moves just to get Sakic to send Quincey to Detroit. And he was reportedly not happy about Stevie and Ken doing that. I think it's doubtful we do business with the Avs.

Nyquist right now

They're not.

AA is now tied for 1st in the league in 5v5 goals with Ovechkin, Kane, Kucherov, Marner, and Atkninson. He's achieved this despite playing 200-300 minutes less than all 5 of those guys. I think he might be good.

What are you talking about?

I think everyone (teams and coaches) will wait till the offseason to make moves. The ARI, LA, or MTL job could open up at that point. Buts that's just speculation on my part. There are some good coaches outside of Hitchcock and Julien as well.

Would be pretty ridiculous if we won the lottery, 29 teams would be pissed. AA - Larkin - Mantha ?? - Patrick - ?? That would be a nice little young nucleus to build around. Gosh darn we need Dmen though.

Everyone's on about "Why would Julien/Hitchcock choose us? we suck" Last I checked the Black Hawks aren't looking for a new coach. As of right now, it's NYI, Vegas, and possibly us. We look pretty attractive in that scenario.

I agree. Holland has the hardware to prove he was very good over most of his career. I think recently though a lot of his tools have been stripped from him... Yzerman, Nill, Babcock, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, various scouts. So basically he lost his right hand and left hand man, and they both took the staff underneath them that they liked. One of the top 5 coaches in the league leaves to a divionsal rival. Arguably the best Dman ever hangs em up, and his franchise center goes to Russia. And all those pieces were replaced by assests of lesser talent. Now I believe all these circumstances were mostly outside of his control. But hes failed to replace them with high end talent in the pipeline. Filppula/Hudler was a failed project. Nyquist/Tatar is looking like a failed project. Brunner failed project. Weiss failed project. Quincey, Ericsson, Smith, Kindl, all failures. Alfredsson, Vanek, Green are the only notable good moves recently. Now the new direction seems to be AA, Larkin, and Mantha, a hodge podge of young Dmen, and Mrazek. And each of those players, while promising, have blemishes on their record. Some of those blemishes could be the fault of our new sub par coach though. Hopefully they are. I'm rambling. I think Holland has certainly tried, hes just failed to connect recently. Meanwile Yzerman has made a bunch of bad moves as well, but a few of his moves really paid off. Stralman project was huge. Johnson project paid off. Kucherov worked out. Handled the St. Louis, Drouin, and Stamkos dilemmas like a gangster. Bishop and Vasilevsky (a pick we gave them for failed project quincey) worked out well. On the flipside, Garrison and Carle didnt work out. He gave up Gudas for Coburn which was dumb. Filppulas not working out. The Lindback trade was a failure. Yzerman just has positives to go along with his negatives recently. Even with their injuries and down year that team is drafting very well and making a lot of good choices with players.

I think most realize Yzerman is the superior GM at this point. Holland isn't the utter moron people make him out to be, but Yzerman is better. Granted, Yzerman took a fair amount of our scout staff with him to Tampa. Our franchise has been picked clean by vultures at this point. Babs, Stevie, and Nill all took their staff with them. I hate it. Only poor deal i can think of by Yzerman is the Lindback trade.

I asked some leafs fans and they said McGran and the sun are terrible even by toronto standards. Dem clicks doh