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On 7/15/2023 at 11:31 AM, LeftWinger said:Wonder what the delay in re-signing Veleno is. His QO is $874k, he has no arbritation rights. He did net 20 points last season and seemed to make some strides in the right direction. Is he exploring the RFA market? Could someone Offer Sheet him? I think a nice contract would be somewhere in between $1M to $1.3M, with no more than 3 years. Maybe he accepts the QO and gives The Wings that much more cap room for another acquisition. Maybe he'll be traded?
Still wondering if Serron Noel (22 years old) will get a contract somewhere, also getting more curious of Nolan Patrick. Although he did not play in 2022-23 (injury) he is still only 24, could he be a reclamation project? I'd really like to see Ryan Merkley get into the organization here. Very solid young (22) RHD that could possibly make some noise in our ranks. Basically it'd be a Zadina for Merkley swap with San Jose, and I believe we'd come out the winner in that one!
He's the last player we've to sign, Shouldn't be much of an issue to get a deal done here.
27 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:I say get a package together starting with Veleno in order to obtain Konecny or Boeser. Vancouver needs cap relief.
Fabbri, Veleno, McIsaac is the package.
to PHL : Fabbri, Veleno, McIsaac
to DET : Konecny, 2025 2nd
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to VAN : Fabbri, Veleno, McIsaac
to DET : Boeser, Tanner Pearson (LTIR for 1 more season) & 2024 1st (because we helped them out with their cap problem, we relived them of nearly $10M)(Top 10 protected of course to 2025)
edit: Here is an armchair GM of the Boeser deal. (along with a couple of others. I signed Patrick and Merkley as reclamation projects.)
You'd honestly sign Nolan Patrick? With his multiple concussions and migraine issues. He'd be Johan Franzen 2.0.
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Considering that garbage that Yzerman inherited from Ken Holland. The team is definitely heading in the right direction.
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So Joe Veleno is the only one left to resign, Get it done Stevie Y.
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34 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:agreed. 8x6 would be good for both sides.
Yup 8x6 is my guess as well, That's pretty much meeting in the middle.
8 hours ago, joesuffP said:Larkin + Raymond
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Stutzle + Debrincat
Larkin tells Ottawa to take a flying dump. They need to add Brady Tkachuk as well.
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22 hours ago, bIueadams said:Hey TBL season ticket holder who sits right behind the bench and heard DeAngelo say slurs there. Good to see you again.
You're right. I had it in my head that expiry for RFA was 26. Change Raymond to 3 year term and Berggren to 1.
Happy liar?
Ouch you hurt my wittle feeling, Calling me a liar for something you absolutely no nothing about.
22 hours ago, Axl Foley said:So DeBrincat, Dumba, and Meier or DuBois?
DeBrincat and Dumba could be real possibilities.
10 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:If we sign Debrincat and Konecny, Raymond might become the new Filip Zadina. I'd wait to see how he looks with 13 minutes of 2nd and 3rd line / 2nd pp unit ice time before paying him anything. There's a strong correlation between 14 min of 1st line / 4 min 1st pp unit ice time and scoring.
Sounds like Detroit is out of the running for Travis Konecny,Sounds like Danny Briere just wants way too much for him.
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5 hours ago, kipwinger said:Fingers crossed Zadina is going back the other way. Seems like every few years there's a guy who is adored (and apologized for) endlessly by 50% of the fanbase. Then they get traded and suck on another team and everybody finally realizes they sucked the whole time until the next guy comes along. Brendan Smith, Tomas Jurco, Mantha, and now Zadina all fit the bill. I'll be glad when the debate is finally put to bed.
Supposedly the 17OA+42ndOA+Zadina, If that's true i can definitely live with it.
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1 hour ago, bIueadams said:Marek says detroit is the destination for da bring cat
Yup both Marek and Friedman have basically said Cat to hometown Detroit. Sounds like the deal is done. And they're trying to hash out the contract extension. Friedman mentioned that term is the sticking point.
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8 hours ago, bIueadams said:We have x4 key players in need of extensions this coming year
- Seider
- Raymond
- Rasmussen
- Berggren
Seider is the most important pillar on this team. IMO give him $9 x 8, full NMC. Make him the highest paid player on the team and gives him the respect that comes with that. Contract will expire when he's 31.
Raymond gets $4.75 x 4. This matches Perron's value and indicates his value to the team. 4 years says we are committed to him, but he's not earned a huge deal yet. Contract expires when he's 25 and we still have RFA control.
Rasmussen gets $4 x 6. Same AAV as Fabbri. He's willing to trade a little salary for our commitment to 6 years. Deal ends when he turns 30.
Berggren we haven't seen enough of yet, so he gets bridged. Deal is $2 x 2. Indicates he has more value than Zadina at $1.875 AAV. Deal ends when he's 25 and we still have RFA control
Total cost of extensions: $19.75
This extension cost is a serious matter. As of today the Red Wings have $30 mil in cap space with only 15 players on the roster. The remaining 8 roster spots will almost certainly cost us $10 million. We can't afford to take cap dumps anymore, and I think we should absolutely sell at the TDL again in 2024 to sell Kubalik and Perron, freeing up another $7 mil in capspace.
The year after, the only player needing extension, as of today, will be Zadina, who we can offer to go pound sand. I think that will be the time to go all in and push for the playoffs. So I wouldn't be surprised if Yzerman stays a little quiet this year, Then after the extensions and TDL are done he goes full pedal to the metal.
Yeah that's smart taking Raymond up to free agency, It's either a 3 year bridge or a long term deal. Giving him 4 years takes him straight to free agency. Way too much risk there.
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54 minutes ago, bIueadams said:He spewd slurs in the OHL, not with the bolts, and definitely not with the rags.
I always find it funny when a crappy journeyman gets romanced.
Chiasson is a pleasant surprise, but not anyone you re-up. Kamper was great in GR. We game him away for free. SY will drop Chiasson and position us for something better.
Wrong i'm a Lightning season ticket holder, He spewed a lot of racial slurs in Tampa, Hence why Yzerman moved him and he also spewed them with the Rangers hence why Rangers moved him. I sat right behind Tampa's bench and could hear his slurs. That's why i know from fact that he used racist slurs in Tampa.
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On 6/2/2023 at 10:24 AM, kipwinger said:So what does everyone think about bringing back Chiasson as the 13th forward? Guy can still score goals and keep up. Thoughts?
I'm all for bringing him back on a cheap one year $900K deal, He was very solid for us on the PP and we can use another big body and the 4th line along with Elmer and Ras.
On 6/1/2023 at 7:02 PM, Axl Foley said:what did TDA do again? was it legit racism? or just low supply, manufactured racism?
He just spewed a lot of racial slurs both in Tampa and with the Rangers. He's just a major locker room cancer.
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7 hours ago, bIueadams said:Dallas wins the trade
Babcock to the Blue Jackets
LOL Babcock and Laine, Are going to be like oil and water. Don't see that working out. Babcock always rubs players the wrong way,
On 4/14/2023 at 11:54 AM, Walman6million said:Apart from Toews being sacked and the Leafs impending doom, the next best thing has been the Pens pissing the bed. Now theyve fired their president and GM lmao. Glorious.
I smell a classic Yzerman trade coming at the draft or the offseason...
Pens, Flyers, and Preds are suddenly under new management. Do they want to shed some pieces? NYI, Jets, and Leafs might have total meltdowns this summer, especially if they exit the playoffs early.
Ducks have the worst defense in like 20 years. Does Verbeek wanna give us a roster player for one of our glut of LHD prospects he would be familiar with?
Erik Karlsson is still availble in SJS.
NYR, Boston, and Edmonton may be forced to release or trade some good players in the offseason.
Our goaltending failed us again this year. Is SY going to go out acquire soneone yet again?
"In the chaos of war there is oppurtunity" - Jimmy Devalano
As bad as free agency is, The available players up for trade. might balance it out.
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Go Vegas kicking some Florida butt tonight.
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On 5/20/2023 at 1:14 PM, Mattm88 said:This crap has no place in hockey, he hasn't made it in the NHL so now he goes to the worlds to act tough. Joe needs to go not only from the worlds but the NHL as well, what a complete loser.
https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/1659945672911593473Perhaps morons like you should be banned, What happens at the worlds has no baring on what happens in the NHL LOOOOOZER.
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2 hours ago, bIueadams said:Flyers are shopping TDA. Just saying... he could replace Hronek for cheap...
TDA is a racist bigot, Want no part of that locker room cancer on the team.
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Dudes a total idiot, Yeah lets kick Joe Veleno out of the NHL for what happened in the worlds. Sorry it doesn't work that way.
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3 hours ago, Axl Foley said:Ras is a middle 6 winger at best, and should not be in the top 6 full time.
What do you think a middle 6 winger is? It's essentially a 2nd and 3rd line winger. Ras playing on the 2nd line doesn't hurt. He makes more sense on the 4th line with Soderblom and a another big body as a shutdown line.
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35 minutes ago, kipwinger said:I. Don't. Caaaaaarrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee. Joe Veleno could cut Nino's head off with his skate and it wouldn't be much worse than what I see on the news all day everyday. Grow up.
Tell this a** hole to grow up, What Joe Veleno did isn't worse than what 75% of the league does. He made a poor choice and is paying for it with a 5 game suspension.
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I guess you missed several years ago, When a piece of s**t Columbus Blue Jacket player tried to take Mike Modano's head off when he was recklessly aiming hid skate at his throat. Can't remember what player it was i believe he was dealt to Philly but he was extremely dangerous with his skate very reckless.
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On 5/20/2023 at 1:14 PM, Mattm88 said:This crap has no place in hockey, he hasn't made it in the NHL so now he goes to the worlds to act tough. Joe needs to go not only from the worlds but the NHL as well, what a complete loser.
https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/1659945672911593473What he did was totally wrong and extremely dangerous, But to say he should be banned out of hockey is totally moronic and very biased. he's being suspended for 5 games for Team Canada. And I'm pretty sure that Yzerman will get with him and say you'll never ever do this crap while on my team.
Stomping on someone is never good, But it's not like Joe Veleno is the only player that has ever done something like this so reckless and foolish. Niederreiter did the exact same thing and only got one game while Veleno who has no issues in flagrant penalties got five games.
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Pretty hard to bring Danielson up in November, He either makes Detroit out of training camp, Or he goes back to the Brandon Wheat Kings those are his only two options.