redw1ngs

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  1. 21 hours ago, marcaractac said:

    Cossa really starting to dominate in Toledo now. It's almost has if some players need time to develop and aren't automatic busts at 20. 

    10 GA in his last five starts and he brought his subpar save % above .90 on the season. 

    But please let's make this post all about Wallstedt again

    15oa pick dominating echl in d2 season. Is that supposed to impress anyone? This doesnt change his outlook until he dominates ahl hes still a big bust. Like it or not Cossa will always be compared to the far superior Wallstedt still outperforming in a much better league. Cossa still sucks.


  2. SM is full of ppl saying we must keep Walman at all costs. Hes a good dman that skates well but nothing special imo.

    Guess who these 2 players are. 27yo dman with 21pts in 111gp. 24yo dman with 21 pts in 115gp. Thats the must keep Walman and forgettable Lindstrom.

    Like Lindstrom Walman is a good bottom 4 but def not a staple and likely not a part of SY longterm plans. If a team offers a 2nd for Walman you take it.


  3. 48 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

    San Jose's ask for Timo Meier is 1st, A prospect, (2) B prospects.

    2024 1st

    Johansson

    Hirose

    Mastrosimone

    Start there and be willing to go to 2023 1st instead of 2024?

    Sharks def want 2023 1st and thats a b prospect and 2 c prospects. 


  4. 5 hours ago, Walman6million said:

    Wallstedt apparently was interviewed by the wings 10 times, multiple of which were with SY, and SY met with his parents. Jesper thought fersure he was going to be a wing on draft day.

    Cossa must have one helluva personality.

    To bad helluva personality doesnt stop pucks.


  5. 6 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

    I'm looking back through all the Stanley Cup teams since 2010 right now and there are some REALLY unimpressive center combinations. Bergeron and Krejci had 57 and 62 points respectively in 2011. Toews and Madden in 2010: 68 and 23 points. Kopitar and Richards in 2012: 76 and 44 points. The list could go on. But I think it's safe to say two things, A) well rounded centers win just as often as high productive centers do, and B) Larkin/Horvat wouldn't even be in the bottom five worst center combos to have won since then.

    If we sign Horvat worst case pts-wise assuming health would be Larkin/Horvat-150pts imo. Itll be interesting to see what SY does before the tdl and offseason. We have some good players on the team and in the system but we could still use another elite player or 2 whether thats thru free agency trade or draft.


  6. 12 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

    I was gonna say something to this affect. I think you have to have good centers, but I think people confuse good centers with super offensive centers. Brayden Point and Anthony Cirelli is not an especially strong 1C/2C combination. Neither is Kopitar/Carter, O'Reilly/Schenn or Bergeron/Kreci. Of the last 10 or so Cup winners I'd say Crosby/Malkin and McKinnon/Kadri were the strongest. Obviously the best current centers are McDavid, Draisaitl, and Nugent-Hopkins and they've got nothing to show for it so far. I don't think there's a blueprint to a Cup winning team, except that you have to have a ton of really good players. Chicago had elite defenders and wingers, and good but not elite centers and goaltending. Tampa has elite wingers and goaltending, but overall less good centers and defense. Pittsburgh had elite centers and goaltending and less good wingers and defense. St. Louis had nothing elite, but solid defense, centers, wingers, and goaltending. There's no recipe. The one thing all these teams have in common is that no part of their team was noticeably bad.

    If Detroit has good but not elite centers and wingers (meaning top end 70-80 point guys with a few 50-60 point guys added in) and elite defense and goaltending in a few years I don't see why they couldn't win a Cup.

    I was going to say something along the same lines. Larkin and Horvat can be 70-80pt centers thats a real good 1-2 punch imo. 


  7. 24 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

    But we have Cossa...Right?

     

     

    Wallstedt has been great in the ahl while Cossa has been horrid in the echl losing record and loser stats. Who saw that coming?

    Wallstedt will be a allstar Vezina winning goalie Cossa might be a backup someday if were lucky.


  8. 9 hours ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said:

    Yeah if we get a 2nd for him.

    A 2nd alone isnt enough for Walman imo.

    Walman should be resigned. Maatta should be traded along with any/all Suter Sundqvist Erne Oesterle Hagg.

    Vrana/Ned need to get back up playing in Detroit hopefully up there trade value again.

    Bertuzzi should of been traded but unfortunatly his value is at a all time low now.

    Larkin will be resigned.


  9. 1 hour ago, marcaractac said:

    According to Woodward Sports, Yzerman is not budging on his Larkin offer and will basically play the Stamkos game. Man if we lose Larkin for nothing because of Yzerman's ego...

    Its not ego its being a smart gm. SY knows Larkin wants to be a Red Wing. Hes not going to another team leaving his home state family where hes played his whole career giving up captaincy being 1c etc. SYs smart to be playing hardball. Larkins the teams best player but hes not worth 9,5m imo get closer to 8 and its fair for both sides.


  10. 59 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

    I think we all need to reassess this (Ive started).  Having Vrana go full junkie has really put this team in a bad spot.  This guy was an efficient top 6 winger.  Not Filip Zadina.  That's not an easy spot to just get by without.  I dont see goalie as a huge problem.  I DO see our first pair LHD as a glaring weakness right now.  Is Walman filling in admirably?  Absolutely.  Is he a true 1LHD?  No way.  We needed to hit on Lindholm last year if we wanted that spot covered.  We struck out.  And we gave Chiarot a chance, but that's been a big miss as well.  Until Edvinsson and Wallinder fulfill their promise, we should expect our top 4 to play well.  Seider needs a true transition defenseman that can skate like the wind so he doesnt have to cover the entire ice surface.  Hronek needs a guy that can cover the backend so he can press forward.

    LHD is 1 of the biggest areas of strength in the org imo. Walman Chiarot Edvinsson Wallinder Johansson Mcisaac etc. No other pisition has that top talent and depth. 


  11. 26 minutes ago, Walman6million said:

    Was Zetterberg really all that flashy? Nah he was just textbook good, just like Kasper. 

    Good player comp. Kasper protects the puck really well and is good at cycling playing down low. Kasper does everything really well imo and isnt afraid of the greasy areas. He has the dog in him just needs to add strength to his frame.


  12. 9 minutes ago, Walman6million said:

    When it comes to goalies, just stop drafting them. Problem solved.

    Dont draft goalies in the top 1/2 of the draft unless there cant miss. Cossa was the opposite -boom or bust- way to much risk especially trading up to get him.

    SYs only glaring mistake so far imo was taking Cossa. Some will say Chiarot and Copp but I dont mind either of those signings.


  13. 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

    to EDM : Hronek (retained salary) Zadina

    to DET : Bouchard, Puljujarvi, 1st? (maybe a 2nd instead)

     

    21 minutes ago, mackel said:

    I don't like that trade at all... Hronek has term he should get you a 1st and a 2nd himself, or you keep him. 

    If Hronek is worth 1st and 2nd Bouchard is worth more then that. This seems like a fair trade probly even favoring Detroit. Wings take this trade all day.


  14. 19 hours ago, Walman6million said:

    Husso = average

    Ned = sucks

    Hellberg = backup

    Okinura = sucks

    Brattstrom = bust

    Cossa = bust

    Welp, its looking like we need to draft goalies again. Are their any good goalies in the draft this year that I can get hyped on? Really havent heard anything about this upcoming draft class yet.

    Gylander = underrated prospect

    Never waste high draft capital on goalers. Throw darts in the later rounds or trade r3 pick for a Husso/Ned.

    Cossas a bust and at 15oa that stings.


  15. 13 hours ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said:

    That's impossible, They don't exist.

    LOL You do understand that most Goalies don't even mature until thy're 23 years old. And Cossa is 20 now

    Do you understand how few goalies play a season in the echl and go on to be #1 goalies in the nhl? Its a very short list and then consider how many on that short list have played as poorly as Cossa. That list dwindles down to 1. The chance of Cossa having a long successful career in the nhl is slim imo let alone the elite #1 some were expecting.