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because it doesn't feel like they earned it. I didn't see the penalty to make it 5 on 3, was it legit? Pathetic powerplay, couple of bad goals, but also some great saves...remember when the PP was #1? Sure their #2 still, but since march they are like #28... Pretty ironic we couldn't get help from the best teams, yet Florida helps them back into the playoffs. Guess they owed us for all the losses this year. Thanks Florida, see ya in 4 games.

we got to win, we aren't getting any help from NY or FLA...

that's it Pav! Show me that Russian ass to kiss!

******* pathetic! Brutal goal, team doesn't seem to be playing like this game matters... Ottawa on the other hand...

funny that folks think the any of Sproul, Marchenko or Ouellet will be promoted to be the #7 guy...that would be a waste of time and talent. May be the same for Jensen, but at least of the 4 kids, he has the least potential to be a top 4 guy in the NHL. Holland will not continue to pay Kindl over $2M to be a #7 and he will not pot ANY of his prized defenders in the press box for 75% of the season. Lashoff, maybe, but if he were good enough to be here, he would still be here...

Wait....I am sure I commented in this tread earlier. Get well Erik!

There was honestly nothing wrong with the old system.... 2 points for a win Reg/OT, 1 point each for a tie, 0 points for loss Reg/OT. Switch to the 7 minute 4 on 4, then 3 on 3 format in OT, eliminate the SO, eliminate the loser point. Like mentioned above, it used to mean something to get 100 points and teams that could do it for 4 or 5 years in a row were truly the elite teams. 90-95 points was great, 80-90 was flirting with missing the playoffs. Right now in to old format, the Rangers would lead the league with 100 points...Detroit would have 80. Here would be your 1-8 standings in the East, with one team still vying to make it in: Rangers - 100 Tampa - 94 Montreal - 90 Islanders - 84 Washington - 83 Detroit - 80 Penguins - 80 (Detroit won season series 2-1) Boston - 78 Ottawa - 76 If you wanted to sort by current playoff format then: Atlantic Tampa Montreal Detroit Metro Rangers Islanders Washington Wildcard Pitt Boston Looking for last spot Ottawa ...I prefer the old point system. 100 points means something and after the season only the Rangers would have over 100. Give back the prestige of getting 100 points, end the loser point. A team can go 0-82-0 with all SO or OT losses and still have 82 points, that is absurd.

Wonder if Minny falls out of the playoffs if they'd entertain any offers for Mary Kate? Seriously though, here is what I would like to see...and keep in mind, I do like Brenden Smith and would opt to re-sign him over keeping Q or E, but something tells me Q nor E will be traded. Hell, Smith probably will not be traded, but still, I would entertain the idea of trading him. Ok, so, I am not going to get into trading players for certain players, because who knows what the market will be come summer and as much as I think Phaneuf would help our D, I think he would cost TOO much in trade, plus his $7M is a ton of cap hit. So, here we go: On D, trade rights to Smith and trade Kindl. Re-sign Zidz. On O, let Cleary go, trade Weiss, "suggest" that Franzen LTIR retire, or trade him. Resign Nyquist, Jurco, Cole, Pulk and Andersson. That gives us: Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Abdelkader, Helm, Sheahan, Cole, Tatar, Nyquist, Jurco, Miller, Glendening, Pulkkinen, Andersson as the top 13. Could always pursue another UFA top end forward and make Andy and Jurco the 13th/14th guys. Our offense is not the pressing need, but a UFA could always help, Some O names that Holland could go after: Chris Stewart, Drew Stafford, Justin Williams, Carl Soderberg Obviously Williams will be a TOP UFA available and would get a ton of higher end offers that Holland may not want to out do. Soderberg obviously for the Swedish connection, plus he is pretty good. The other two guys mentioned could be middle of the road guys that could help solidify the forwards. There are plenty of names available UFA, but I think that Holland will most likely re-sign his RFA's and offer Cole another year. Some D guys that I feel Holland may pursue: Christian Ehrhoff, Mike Green, Cody Franson, Jeff Petry, Paul Martin He's always liked Ehrhoff and Green. He was in on the Franson and Petry trades in March. For me, if he cannot land Franson, who I don't see having a reason not to re-sign in Nashville, I'd like to see Martin before Green or Ehrhoff. Again, our scoring is not the issue as much as the defensive side of the D corps and Martin is a really good defensive guy. If Pit falls out of the playoffs, he may seek other opportunity or they may want to go in a different direction, so he may not re-sign. Now, when it comes to our prized "kids" in GR. If we can avoid trading any of them (which unless we make a deal for Phanuef or another higher end player, we should be able to do so) I would be ok with leaving the top 3 (Marchenko, Ouellet, Sproul) in GR for another full season and promote Jensen to be the #7 guy. Lashoff can stay in GR, if he was wanted here, he would still be here. I only say Jensen because of the 4 kids, he is probably the least likely to be a top 4 guy in the NHL, or at least in Detroit. He can though, easily be that #7 guy who steps in when needed. I'd hate to waste the talent of any of the other three as a #7 guy, BUT I'd also hate to promote any of them too soon into a top 3 spot as our savior on the D. That is why I believe re-signing Zidz and picking Martin would immediately transform this D into a better all around corps without putting a rookie in the pressure cooker. I'll say it again, that I prefer trading either Q or E over Smith, but who wants either of them? If we are getting a player or even draft picks back, Smith would be more valuable. Don't get me wrong, I'd gladly take a 5th round pick for Q or E over a higher one for Smith, but I don't see Q or E being traded or wanted. I honestly don't see Smith being traded either because of Holland's reluctance to let go of his drafted talent. But anyhow here is how my D looks: Kronwall - Martin Dekeyser - Zidlicky Ericsson - Quincey Jensen The O doesn't change too much (minus Cleary and Weiss) except if Holland makes a deal for a sniper (which I think we most likely already have in Nyquist and Tatar and soon Pulk) or signs someone to change the makeup a little bit. If they signed Soderberg to pretty much replace the roster spot of Franzen, that would be a nice exchange. Of course that would probably keep Jurco out of the lineup most of next season, unless they opt not to re-sign Andersson or trade Jurco outright. Lets just make a lineup WITH Soderberg and see what it looks like: Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Abdelkader Nyquist - Soderberg - Cole Tatar - Sheahan - Pulkkinen Miller- Helm - Glendening Andersson/Jurco There's no doubt that Mrazek will be up in Monsters vacated spot. So if we can solid up our D the goaltending SHOULD get better, hopefully that is the bigger issue than just average goalies. Both have proven that they can play big AND give up the bad goal, so hopefully a better D means less shots and less chances for the bad goal. For the record, I am still in the Mrazek or #1 court though.

hey, look at it this way, Rags already clinched the top spot. Everyone is saying they have nothing to play for, that may be true, but what does Montreal have left to play for then? Maybe the play a who cares game against us Thursday. They have nothing to gain by playing all their starters or risking too much...

wtf s***sburgh! I hope you fall out of the playoffs now!

did our part....i am kissing Pav's Russian ass right now!

this team should not be playing us this hard...

wtf kronner!?!

pav!!!!!!;;:!;!;;; who's idea was it to put these two bums together!?! Lol!

yes! A bad goal! Not against us! Its in the stars guys! (and girls)

3rd period....game 7. Come full throttle, do not play scared. Throw the kitchen sink at them! Booga Booga!

you know my opinion of Howard, but its hard to make a save with a face full of snow and water...

that second goal was crap! I thought it was a penalty to spray the goalie with snow? The first guy who shot it sprayed jimmy in the face with snow, then the rebound went in...wtf?!?

son of a!

If Kenny even thinks about describing a play by saying"...has Semin all over him..." I am gonna spit my beer all over!

ok, so, a goalie who hasn't won in 6 games...booga booga! Not tonight! The stars are aligned!

that's what I'm talking about Pav! "I'm not 100%, but I need to be in there..." I. ******* knew you were a leader! Lol! Really though, this is a time that I am glad I underestimated you! Carry this team Pav! Carry this team!

It's in the stars.... on #nationalbeerday the Wings are going to honor it buy winning (with an OTT Reg. loss) and completing the quest or 24 (case) years in the playoffs! Plus since the reason Probie took #24 was because it was a case of Beer, we can also honor him on #nationalbeerday!

where's blueadams when you need him!?

...oops, forgot about Andersson. Looks like a winning lineup, eh?