LeftWinger

AHL vs. NHL 2 pro leagues, yet 2 leagues of their own. no comparison.

you're talking AHL to NHL.

I'm thinking he wouldn't have taken him if we remained 4th or better. but 5th or worse, yes.

I say we look at the UFA's left, try to get an upgrade via that way or trade. push for the playoffs now.

I wish it would happen now! But at least Daley, Ericsson and Green only have the 1 year left. Let's HOPE that Yzerman does not offer them contracts! BTW, have we seen any news on Kronwall?

Plus we aren't getting the #1 OA. It just isn't happening.

None that I know of for sure, but it just seems that we never get any bones to chew on. The guy would probably have been a top 3 guy here, again not that I advocated for him, but he waived his list to go to Ottawa for that very reason, to play a bigger role. He could've been in a larger role here as well, plus I think we are a little better off than Ottawa. But oh well...

How did The Wings become so taboo? we are not the worst team in the league, some teams haven't made the playoffs in a decade, yet we're always on the no trade lists. we aren't that bad and you would think that a D would be interested in coming here because we lack good players at that spot, so they may get a bigger role here too. I just don't get it. is it the area? not that I really wanted him, but it's depressing to always see us on no trade lists.

When it comes to trading one of our core, you guys know I am against it, BUT if it came to acquiring RFA Zach Werenski? I'd trade 1 of Mantha, AA, Rasmussen or Zadina PLUS another prospect (Berggren or McIsaac?) AND a lottery protected 2020 1st for him. He is the ONLY D that I would make that deal for in today's NHL. I wonder what the hold up is on signing him? They have plenty of cap space. They took a huge hit UFA day, maybe he isn't liking the direction of the team and is holding out? Haven't heard much on him.

I know this is a Red Wings prospect thread, but without looking for the 2018 draft thread, I thought I'd bring this little laugh in here to lighten up our off season! The Blue jackets have a signed prospect drafted in the 7th round, a G named Shamil Shamakov, he plays for Sibirskie Snaipery Novosiborsk. I love it! it has Laverne and Shirley written all over it! So in your best version of the L&S opening sing it with me! "Shamil! Shabakov! Sibirski Snaipery Novosiborsk!"

I thin the 2020 rebuild should involve making the playoffs in 19-20. I am tired of watching throw away season's and not even draft as high as we should've. The lottery system stinks. If we could've drafted 4th this year we'd have Byrum. But even if we made the playoffs, and lost inthe 1st round, and drafted around 14-16, the names that went in those spots were Caufield, Krebs, Newhook, so it's not like we would've have crap to choose from. I happen to feel that we have done better in the 15-20 range anyhow, ie. Larkin, Mantha, Cholowski. In the past 3 drafts, if we would've made the playoffs and lost in the 1st, here are some names that were available in that Range: 2017: Foote, Liljegren 2018: Farabee, Ty Smith and 2019 listed above. Not that those guys are any better than what we chose, but my point is, we wouldn't have lost out on anybody really. ( I get that Zadina and Seider remain to be seen what they can do, but you see what I meant by it.) We've made lateral moves this season, I don't see Yzerman buying out Ericsson or Daley, so it looks like we are basically going to be yet another lottery team that wants to be "competitive" and we'll wind up draft 6-10 again, losing out on a franchise type player in the top 4 and drafting a player that may not be worth the spot again. I'm just saying that I want to see us back in the playoffs this year. Whether we lose in the 1st, so what, I'd be perfectly happy drafting at 14-20 as I would 6-13. Here is an early 2020 prospect list top 31: https://prospectpipeline.ca/2019/06/20/2020-nhl-draft-ranking-top-31-off-season/

Well, Toronto has $10.5M that can be used as LTIR, so what is stopping Marner from taking a 1 year deal at $10M then getting a larger deal next year? Especially if they are in a win now mode, this could be their only window for a few years, considering they only have 1 D signed past this season they really need to go for it.

They'll probably buyout Shatty and Smith. After the fact, I wouldn't mind giving Shatty a year contract, He, like most, went to NY and fizzled under the spotlight pressure, Trouba will do the same. Shatty here would be top 4, if not top 2 and probably benefit from not being under the spotlight so much. Kreider would be a nice little addition, but would we be on his 11 team list to where he won't accept a trade is the question there.

let's focus on Werenski.

He maybe should've seeked advice from Suter before letting "the lady" tell him where to play. Is what it is though. He's got some money and happy woman.

Maybe Seattle Americans. Even if half or more than half the team aren't US born.

I guess I am just gun shy. But I do believe (unless they take a 1 year hometown deal) both Marner and Point are getting $9M+. I trust Steve will do the right thing of course, and unlike Holland, he will not overpay for a player, so if he does acquire Point, I will trust he will pay what they are worth to him. I guess we have to start somewhere, and acquiring a potential 100 point player would be a huge step in the right rebuild direction. so, Zadina, Berggren, 2020 1st (Lottery protected to go to 2021) for Point?

The only thing that makes me hesitate is he's only scored 90+ once, and that was on a team that totaled 62 wins and 128 points. Not saying he can't be a consistent 90+ point player, but his previous years were 66 and 40. I believe the team he played with had a ton to do with his 92 points. I feel that on most other teams he goes back down to 60-70 points, which, to me, lessens his trade value. But you're right, someone will pay up for him because of this one year (same with Marner,) I hope it's not Yzerman. I do not want to give up either of Zadina or Veleno OR our 2020 1st round pick, PLUS pay him $9M-$10M on the chance that he'll get 90-100 again playing with Larkin, AA and Mantha instead of Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. If it'll cost what you are saying, I'll pass.

what about Rasmussen and a 2021 1st, maybe toss a Berggren in too?

rumor, but we are hearing our name alot in the Point trade rumors. What would you give up?

It's going to cost us when both Mantha and AA score 30 and net 50-60 points. But we'll have plenty of cap space to re-sign them. I agree, take care of you homegrown for sure. I hope neither gets traded, but if that #1 D becomes available, or maybe even a #1 RH'd sniper, I could see a deal being made.

way back, I suggested bringing back The Whalers! I hope they do!

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2019/07/17/suicide-likely-death-former-red-wing-greg-johnson/1757261001/

I admit, I am wearing the Yzerman glasses. IF Holland made these picks, I'd have popped a vein in my head! That being said, what I've seen of Seider thus far is nice. Could end up being a steal. The two little ball's of hate we got impress me as well. Pretty sure they will be NHL players sooner rather than never. The 2020-21 rebuild, consider that as of right now ( I know we have a lot of players to re-sign) we have $36M in cap space and up to $6M more if needed with Z on LTIR. That's $42M for re-signing the RFA's, promoting yoots and maybe making a splash in UFA. Can we just skip the 19-20 season?