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He'll regret leaving if he does, that's for sure

Perron will stay, Ghost will stay. Holl will be traded, Petry will be bought out. Opening up room for 2-3 kids and others via UFA. If Tampa gets swept, there is a good chance Stamkos is gone, maybe he'll come here.

Oh well. When Detroit finishes higher than whichever other team he chooses, and makes the playoffs, at least he'll have his memories.

Nah, Kane already said he'd like to play with better players and Debrincat said Kane wants to come back.

If they don't trade the 1st, I could see one of Jircek, Iginla, or Greentree. If they're still there a5 15 that is.

So we'll let Kane's PPG go, Ghost's 60 points go, replace them with rookies and then keep a defender that can't defend and makes too many mistakes.

spinning the tankathon wheel, and we either stay at 15 or end up at 5. #5 happened about 4 out of 15 tries. They have us taking Eiserman. Bold prediction 1, this will happen. easy prediction, Utah NHL Club will win the 1st overall.

You can if you dump others. Petry, Holl, Maatta, Chiarot. Any of these guys are expendable.

Plus, he says "recalls Johansson" at some point. Johansson isn't going to clear waivers if he's sent down from the start. Re-sign Ghost. How do you not? Unless the guy wants 6 or 7 million.

$1.5M next season

Well there was one thing that has been nice while The Wings weren't relevant. So, back to real conversation, with hearing that they are going to give Johansson a legit shot at Detroit, knowing Edvinsson is also going to be here, plus also knowing they'd like Ghost back, that makes a pretty jammed up defense. I'm sure Yzerman will explore upgrading the D as well. Although he didn't word for word, quote, verbatim, write in down on paper, or tell his team this at the press conference, I'm pretty positive he'll look at some options. Who goes? We know who we'd like to see go, but I wonder how Yzerman will actually thin this out. Seider, Walman, Johansson, Edvinsson, Chiarot, Petry, Maatta, Ghost, Holl, possible upgrade. Thats a whole lot of D for 7 or 8 rosters spots.

But those were his exact words. Also I wasn't pointing at you directly, I was just saying all the name calling back and forth was not necessary. Also, I always said "I think" and "I believe" or "IMO" I definitely never claimed to interpret his words as "a matter of fact." But he did say, exactly his choice will depend on where he fits on the team and who he plays with. He may have been referring to 32 teams, but I believe he was mostly talking about Detroit. You can still have Kane and get younger. You don't re-sign Sprong, Fischer, Reimer, and trade a D along with buying out Petry. If he replaces 2 of those players with Berggren and Johansson along with promoting Edvinsson full time, Detroit gets much younger. I'm not getting into arguments or name calling, that hasn't been me for a very long time. I'm just going to say, I believe and I hope he comes back. But mostly I hope that, in whatever way, the team gets upgraded.

No. I said if he got the term and Yzerman gave him a better picture of what the top 6 may look like, that I believe that he may have no issue returning. So, if Yzerman gives him a good picture of what he is trying to do to improve the team and they can agree on term that works for player and team, I honestly do believe he'll be back. Maybe Yzerman doesn't get his star players involved that way though....don't know, but it's no reason to soil 2 pages of this thread with slurs and pointless banter. Debrincat said "he picked us for a reason" Kane said some factors are "where he fits on the team and who he may play with." It's in the videos. Interpret that in your own way.

Ok, this is probably going to be a long post, I am going to try to cover all the drafts, signings and trades that Yzerman has made since he came home. I think once it is done up to date, we will see that he has moved us much closer and faster to glory than Holland could ever had dreamed of. With that being said I will start with what Holland left us with his last season. YEAR ONE 2018-2019 Red Wings: Record: 32-40-10 (74 points), Finished 7th in NHL Atlantic Division Detroit Red Wings hire Steve Yzerman as GM and VP 4-19-2019 5-01-2019 : Signed C Joseph Veleno to a three-year, entry-level contract. 5-05-2019 : Signed D Dylan McIlrath to a two-year, $1.4 million contract extension. 5-28-2019 : Signed D Oliwer Kaski to a one-year, entry-level contract. 6-22-2019 : The Buffalo Sabres acquired a 2019 fifth round pick (#143, Filip Cederqvist(LW)) from Detroit Red Wings for 2019 sixth round pick (#177, Gustav Berglund(D)) & 2019 seventh round pick (#191, Carter Gylander (G)) 2019 Draft: 7-01-2019 : Signed C Valtteri Filppula to a two-year, $3 million contract. Signed D Patrik Nemeth to a two-year, $6 million contract. Signed G Calvin Pickard to a two-year, $1.4 million contract. 7-14-2019 : Signed D Moritz Seider to a three-year, entry-level contract. 8-14-2019 : The Tampa Bay Lightning acquired a 2020 fourth round pick ( #116, Eamon Powell (D)) from the Detroit Red Wings for Adam Erne 10-06-2019 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Alex Biega from Vancouver Canucks for David Pope 10-23-2019 : Waived D Jonathan Ericsson. 10-28-2019 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Brendan Perlini from the Chicago Blackhawks for Alec Regula 11-06-2019 : The St. Louis Blues traded Robby Fabbri to the Detroit Red Wings for Jacob De La Rose 11-30-2019 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Eric Comrie from the Arizona Coyotes for Vili Saarijarvi 12-09-2019 : Waived D Madison Bowey. 12-12-2019 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Kyle Wood from the Carolina Hurricanes for Oliwer Kaski 12-18-2019 : Waived G Eric Comrie. 2-21-2020 : Acquired D Cody Goloubef off waivers from Ottawa Senators. 2-23-2020 : The Edmonton Oilers acquired Mike Green from the Detroit Red Wings for a conditional 2020 fourth round pick (conditions weren't met, we kept the #107 (Bednar) pick) and Kyle Brodziak 2-24-2020 : Acquired LW Dmytro Timashov off waivers from the Toronto Maple Leafs. 2-24-2020 : The Edmonton Oilers acquired Andreas Athanasiou and Ryan Kuffner from the Detroit Red Wings for Sam Gagner, 2020 second round pick (#45 traded to LA (Brock Faber (D) for #51 (Theodor Niderbach) & 2020 4th (#97 Sam Stange) and 2021 second round pick (traded NYI (#52 Atu Raty) along with Richard Panik for Nick Leddy on 7-16-2021) 2020 Seasons stats: Record: 17-49-5 (39 points), Finished 8th in NHL Atlantic Division Significant step backwards, did we try to tank? Either way, this was expected with the mess Holland left and Yzerman trying to patch holes. 2020-2021 Season 4-29-2020 : Signed LW Mathias Brome to a one-year, two-way contract worth $925,000. 8-24-2020 : Signed C Robby Fabbri to a two-year, $5.9 million contract extension. 9-26-2020 : Acquired D Marc Staal and a 2021 second-round draft pick from the New York Rangers (traded to Dallas (Artem Grushnikov) along with #23 (acquired in Mantha deal) (Wyatt Johnston)) and 2021 5th (Ottawa #138 (Jack Barr) for 2021 1st (#15 Sebastian Cossa)) for future considerations. It is unknown what the future consideration were. 10-06-2020 : Red Wings buyout Abdelkader contract 2020 NHL Draft Day 2 draft day trades: 10-7-2020 : The Los Angeles Kings acquired 2020 second round pick (#45 (Brock Faber)) from the Detroit Red Wings for 2020 second round pick (#51 (Neiderbach)) and 2020 fourth round pick (#97 (Stange)) 10-7-2020 : The Minnesota Wild acquired 2020 third round pick (#65 (original Sharks (Daemon Hunt))) from the Detroit Red Wings for 2020 third round pick (#70 (Eemil Viro)) and 2020 fifth round pick (#132 (Alex Cotton)) 10-7-2020 : The St. Louis Blues acquired 2021 seventh round pick (#198 (Ivan Vorobyov)) from the Detroit Red Wings for 2020 seventh round pick (#203 (Chase Bradley)) 10-9-2020 : Signed RW Bobby Ryan to a one-year, $1 million contract. Signed D Jon Merrill to a one-year $925,000 contract. Signed D Troy Stecher to a two-year, $3.4 million contract. Signed G Thomas Greiss to a two-year, $7.2 million contract. Signed C Vladislav Namestnikov to a two-year, $4 million contract. 1-09-2021 : The Red Wings claimed Christian Djoos off waivers 2-14-2021 : DeKeyser was waived by the Detroit Red Wings 2-21-2021 : Nielsen was waived by the Detroit Red Wings 3-03-2021 : Filppula was waived by Detroit 4-09-2021 : The Colorado Avalanche acquired Patrik Nemeth from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2022 fourth round pick (#129 (Maximilian Kilpinen)) 4-10-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired David Savard from the Columbus Blue Jackets for Brian Lashoff. The Tampa Bay Lightning acquired David Savard from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2021 fourth round pick (#128 later traded to Vegas (Jakub Demek) along with #38 (Daniil Chayka) for #36 (Shai Buium)) 4-11-2021 : The Montreal Canadiens acquired Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2021 fifth round pick (traded to Dallas (Jack Bar)) and Hayden Verbeek 4-12-2021 : The Washington Capitals acquired Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for Richard Panik, Jakub Vrana, 2021 first round pick (dealt in Cossa deal) and 2022 second round pick (#52 (Dimitri Buchelnikov)) 4-16-2021 : Raymond signed a three-year, entry-level contract with the Detroit Red Wings on Friday. The deal will begin with the 2021-22 season. 2021 Season Stats: Record: 19-27-10 (48 points), Finished 7th in NHL Central Division Slight improvement, especially since it was another shortened season. 2021-2022 Season: 5-20-2021 : Jonatan Berggren signed a three-year, entry-level contract 7-16-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Nick Leddy from the New York Islanders for Richard Panik and 2021 second round pick (#52 - from Edmonton (Atu raty)) 7-21-2021: The Seattle Kraken acquired Dennis Cholowski from the Detroit Red Wings in the expansion draft 7-22-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Alex Nedeljkovic from the Carolina Hurricanes for a 2021 third round pick (Originally Vegas pick acquired in Tatar trade (Holland deal) #94 (Aidan Hreschuk)) and Jonathan Bernier 2021 Draft Draft Day Trades: 7-23-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired 2021 first round pick (#15 (Cossa)) from the Dallas Stars for 2021 first round pick (#23 (Wyatt Johnson)), 2021 second round pick (#48 originally Rangers in acquired Staal trade (Atrem Grusnikov)), and 2021 fifth round pick (#138 originally Ottawa pick acquired via Montreal in Merrill trade (Jack Bar)) 7-24-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired 2021 Second Round Pick (#36 (Buium) from the Vegas Golden Knights for 2021 Second Round Pick (#38 (Chayka)) and 2021 Fourth Round Pick (#128 (Demek)) 7-24-2021 : The Vegas Golden Knights acquired 2021 fourth round pick (#102 (Jakub Brabenec)) from the Detroit Red Wings for 2021 fourth round pick (#114 (Red Savage)) and 2021 fifth round pick (#155 (Oscar Plandowski)) 7-28-2021 : Suter signed a two-year, $6.5 million contract. Oesterle signed a two-year, $2.7 million contract. 7-29-2021 : Witkowski signed a two-year contract. 7-30-2021 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Mitchell Stephens from the Tampa Bay Lightning for 2022 sixth round pick (traded to LA #169 (Jared Wright)) 7-31-2021 : Bertuzzi (back) signed a two-year, $9.5 million contract 8-10-2021 : Vrana agreed to terms on a three-year, $15.75 million contract 8-19-2021 : Red Wings buyout Frans Nielsen contract 12-14-2021 : Robby Fabbri signed a three-year, $12 million extension 1-19-2022 : The Red Wings claimed Gemel Smith off waivers from Tampa Bay 2-18-2022 : Gemel Smith was placed on waivers 3-06-2022 : Olli Juolevi was claimed by Detroit from Florida off waivers 3-20-2022 : The Los Angeles Kings acquired Troy Stecher from the Detroit Red Wings for 2022 seventh round pick (#212 (Brennan Ali)) 3-21-2022 : The St. Louis Blues acquired Nick Leddy and Luke Witkowski from the Detroit Red Wings for Oskar Sundqvist, Jake Walman, and 2023 second round pick (#42 (Andrew Gibson)) 3-21-2022 : The Dallas Stars acquired Vladislav Namestnikov from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2024 4th Round Pick 4-24-2022 : Edvinsson signed a three-year, entry level contract 2022 Season Stats: Record: 32-40-10 (74 points), Finished 6th in NHL Atlantic Division 5-16-2022 : Pontus Andreasson signed a one-year contract 5-22-2022 : Steven Kampfer signed a one-year deal 6-09-2022 : Elmer Soderblom signed a three-year, entry-level contract 2022 Draft: 7-8-2022 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Ville Husso from the St Louis Blues for 2022 third round pick (#73 (Aleksanteri Kaskimaki)) 7-13-2022 : Marco Kasper signed a three-year, entry-level deal 7-13-2022 : Copp penned a five-year, $28.125 million contract. Maatta agreed to terms on a one-year, $2.25 million deal. Chiarot signed a four-year, $19 million contract. Kubalik signed a two-year, $5 million contract. Perron signed a two-year, $9.5 million contract. 7-25-2022 : Hagg agreed to terms on a one-year, $800,000 contract. 8-10-2022 : Walman signed a one-year, $1.05 million contract 8-26-2022 : Zadina signed a three-year, $5.475 million contract extension 11-23-2022 : Detroit claimed Magnus Hellberg off waivers from Seattle 12-19-2022 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Michael Del Zotto from the Florida Panthers for Givani Smith. The Anaheim Ducks acquired Michael Del Zotto from the Anaheim Ducks for Danny O'Regan. 12-23-2022 : Amadeus Lombardi signed a three-year. entry-level contract with Detroit. 1-18-2023 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Jasper Weatherby from the San Jose Sharks for Kyle Criscuolo. 2-16-2023 : Olli Maatta signed a two-year, $6 million contract extension 2-28-2023 : Jake Walman agreed to terms on a three-year, $10.2 million contract extension 3-01-2023 : Dylan Larkin signed an eight-year, $69.6 million contract extension 3-01-2023 : The Vancouver Canucks acquired Filip Hronek and a 2023 fourth round pick (#105 (Ty Mueller)) from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2023 first round pick (#17 original Islanders (Axel Sandin Pellikka)) and 2023 second round pick (traded to Nashville (#43 (Felix Nilsson)) for #47 (Brady Cleveland) and #147 (Kevin Backer)) 3-02-2023 : The Boston Bruins acquired Tyler Bertuzzi from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2024 1st round pick (possibly going to Ottawa in Debincat deal) and a 2025 4th round pick 3-03-2023 : Alex Chiasson signed a one-year contract 3-03-2023 : The St. Louis Blues acquired Jakub Vrana from the Detroit Red Wings for Dylan McLaughlin and a 2025 7th round pick 3-03-2023 : The Minnesota Wild acquired Oskar Sundqvist from Detroit Red Wings for a 2023 4th round pick (#117 (Larry Keenan)) 3-09-2023 : The Arizona Coyotes acquired Steven Kampfer from the Detroit Red Wings for future considerations 3-28-2023 : Carter Mazur agreed to terms on a three-year, entry-level contract 2022-2023 Season Stats: Record: 35-37-10 (80 points), 7th in NHL Atlantic Division Again, slight improvement, more kids playing and more assets acquired. 2023 Off Season thus far: 2023 Draft 6-29-2023 : Kailer Yamamoto and Klim Kostin were traded to the Detroit Red Wings from the Edmonton Oilers on Thursday in exchange for future considerations. Draft Day 2 Trades: 6-29-2023 : The Nashville Predators acquired a 2023 2nd round pick (#43 (Felix Nilsson)) from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2023 2nd round pick (#47 (Brady Cleveland)) and 2023 5th round pick (#147 (Kevin Bicker)) 6-30-2023 : Kailer Yamamoto contract bough out. 7-01-2023 : Klim Kostin signed a two-year contract. James Reimer signed a one-year, $1.5 million contract. Justin Holl signed a three-year, $10.2 million deal. Alex Lyon signed a two-year, $1.8 million contract. Daniel Sprong signed a one-year, $2 million contract. JT Compher signed a five-year, $25.5 million contract. Shayne Gostisbehere signed a one-year, $4.15 million contract. 7-02-2023 : Christian Fischer signed a one-year, $1.125 million contract. 7-03-2023 : Filip Zadina was placed on waivers for purpose of contract termination. 7-08-2023 : John Lethemon signed a one-year, two-way contract 7-09-2023 : The Detroit Red Wings acquired Alex DeBrincat from the Ottawa Senators for Dominik Kubalik, Donovan Sebrango, a conditional 2024 1st round pick, and a 2024 4th round pick. There were a lot of minor league transactions I did not include, along with a lot of recalls and waivers and demotions. If you look at what Holland left us compared to today, the Yzerplan is working, and working well. I predict we will be in the playoffs this season. Please feel free to add to this things I may have missed. Thanks for reading this all!

As a matter of fact, around the 2:20 mark of the exit interview, he is answering a question about moving forward and indeed he says "...how do I fit in with the team, who do I play with..." now, he may not be referring to just Drtroit and maybe looking how he fits in and who he'd play with on another team, but if you take the statement alone, he just may be talking about Detroit. If Yzerman gives him term and provides a better picture of what the top 6 is going to look like, I believe he'd have no issue returning.

Not necessarily. None of the team celebrated. A promise to improve the team in areas, some term, and he could be back. I hope he's back or we're in trouble. How do you replace a PPG guy? He can't be angry that Yzerman didn't make any moves at the TDL because he was one of the players saying how much they all love playing together and how they feel they can win with the guys they have. He did mention about who he's playing with. That's a coaching thing. I know you cannot let a player dictate the line mates, but he'll be top 6, maybe get him an upgrade at C if he's not gonna play with Larkin (I suggested Domi before) and keep them together. He seems to like Domi. If Yzerman can unload some cap ( a couple of Fabbri, Holl, Chiarot, Husso, for example) he could seriously upgrade his top 6 by reaching out to Domi and Bertuzzi. Could you imagine that top 6? Bertuzzi-Larkin-Raymond Kane-Domi-DeBrincat Those two lines would have it all. Playmaking, sniper, sandpaper. You'd have a solid bottom 6 anchored by Rasmussen, Compher, Copp (Perron if he returns) Still trade Berggren and a 1st for a serious D upgrade. Like him or not, Chychrun would be a big upgrade. Of course this all depends on clearing enough cap to sign and re-sign the players we need to sign. And maybe Ottawa retaining 50% of Chychrun. Because Domi/Bertuzzi would probably cost about $10-$11M combined, also knowing Seider/Raymond will probably cost $13-$16M combined. It could work if we dumped some of the salary mentioned above. If you could get another $12-$14M in cap avail via trades, it's doable. Fill in the final few spots with kids.

You my be right, but it sounded like if he could get term here, he'd be interested.

Makes lots of sense.

We need a MAJOR upgrade to the D, and young. Think 25-28. If we can clear enough cap, and still add Roy, cool, but we have to make our top 4 D a ***** to play against.

Unfortunately (I have been messing with Armchair GM) I cannot get Werenski salary to work, without dumping Chiarot and Holl. Unless we can include Holl in the trade, I just cannot get it to work. I even traded Fabbri and bought out Husso's contract. I re-signed Ghost and Kane in this scenario too. It's just not gonna work. But I agree, we need to go aggressive on trade talent. Like I've said before, this year's and next year's 1st are in play, along with some good young players. We should get some attention.

Trade Berggren, #15, a 2nd to Columbus for Werenski (I bet he'd waive his NMC to come here) and they can draft Adam Jiricek and have the brothers on their team. It would have to wait until the actual pick to see if Jiricek is still on the board, of course

Ok, here is the best we can do, it took me about 25 tries though. 5th is the highest we can climb, and 16th the lowest, which means we'll be drafting 16th. I just wanted to see if we'd actually move up the most possible, and we did, but unfortunately, it's not going to be this simple. The list of prospects above is still the same for McKenzie, he hasn't released the April one yet. IMO, we wait post lottery, then decide if we are going to just draft another player that we won't see for 5 years, or is it time to bundle the 1st and a player(s) to upgrade the D right now.

McKenzie has Zeev at 13 and Jircek at 15.

and so the off season begins!