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Zetterberg made Crosby his ***** on the reg.

Unlikely it'll be either. But if it's going to be one of those two it should be Fedorov.
Osgood was a big part of the team but is not the caliber of player that the Wings retire jerseys for.

Very solid deal, best part of all is this eliminates the Phanooops possibility!

This proves Holland is delusional.

There is no positive to this, unless you are Helene St. James. First off, just because you have cap space doesn't mean blowing it on players that aren't going to help the team is prudent. Even for a year, it is completely not necessary to keep Cleary around. The Wings have an abundance of veteran leadership; all of which are still capable of playing hockey. Cleary doesn't add anything to the locker room, that isn't already there in the likes of Zetterberg, Kronwall, Datsyuk, probably Alfredsson too.
Second, Dan Cleary is not reverting to previous form. 35 years old with no knees and other injury history is not an ideal reclamation project. I loved Cleary, but he hasn't been remotely useful in years because his style of play eventually broke him down physically. You don't get that back with age and some time at the gym. The simple fact is the Red Wings have superior talent already on the roster that are now at risk of losing their spot because of Cleary. Not to mention, there is a precedent set from not even a year ago that the Wings are willing to demote players to Grand Rapids at the expense of veterans with nothing of value to offer the team.
Realistic is knowing Ken Holland's history and realizing how this is going to play out. None of which makes the Red Wings a better team come September. I don't quite understand what making a trade has to do with Cleary either. Much like the Quincey signing, Holland's best course of action was to do nothing. Instead, in typical fashion, he made a bad situation worse by clinging to his fascination with players he knows and washed up veterans. I can somewhat deal with striking out on free agents, but making senseless moves for the sake of doing something is far worse than just letting everything be.
Again, I ask what is the direction of the Red Wings organization under Ken Holland right now? It obviously isn't youth movement, as many times as Holland prefers to lie to us otherwise. Holland is insulting the fan base with claims of letting the kids play when every move he makes indicates the opposite entirely. It isn't win now either or else we aren't all discussing Dan Cleary re-signing. So that leads me to believe extending the playoff streak and lingering in mediocrity is the preferred vision of the front office.
Yeah, Cleary will look terrific not being able to skate in our five game first round loss.

Is Holland all there mentally? Otherwise...

Because Cleary beat Nyquist, Jurco, Tatar, Sheahan and Pulkkinen last year in camp.
If you believe that, there is no hope for you.

A 1 year deal for 500k would have been a terrible signing.
This? This is bad beyond words.

As a moderator here, I'm just glad the Wings didn't announce the re-signing of Quincey and Cleary on the same day.

dear god we all know whats coming next

dear god we all know whats coming next

Holland has the worst day, Stevie and Nill probably improve their two teams the most. I think it's pretty clear now Holland surrounded himself with very intelligent people and got most of the credit. Not to mention, the scouts and coaches in player development making him look even better.

We can buyout TooToo anytime. We don't have to waste our compliance buyout to do it. 1.9 million doesn't matter to us-we have plenty of cap space. Buy out FRANZEN!!!!!!!!!!!! He is dead weight.

No, we lost one of our best prospects who fills a whole that this team desperately needs in a scoring right handed center.
We made the playoffs which is great, but I think we could have done it without Legwand, or even with jarncrok in that position. Legwand was irrelevant IMO.
The pick is now a second rounder, which can easily become a good player
Basically, we traded a 2nd pick (pretty high one too) and a promising prospect for 5 extra games of hockey.

No matter what this "mental situation" is he is still making I believe 4 million bucks a year. People who make 10 bucks an hour or less go through crap too but yet we suck it up and still perform at work. His ass has to go.

I am excited for next year, but I'll be really bummed if we miss the playoffs. I hate baseball.

Lets set some things straight.
1. Franzen has not played great all year. He has played like crap fro most of the year. In October he played 12 games and scored 2 goals, both in the same game. In November he played in 10 games-missed 4 while hurt and scored 4 goals. In december he played in 8 games, missed 6 while hurt and scored 3 goals. In january he played 1 game, missed 12 and scored 0 goals. In February he played in 2 games, missed 4 others and scored 3 goals-all in the same game. March he has played in 7 games, missed none and has 3 goals. But again nothing the last 4.
2. Leaders lead, not push. If you want to lead Johan, put the puck in the net! That is how leaders do it.
3. Leaders also don't disappear. I understand that no one scores in every game. But goals scorers do it more than once a month. Your even worse, because when you don't score you stop skating, checking, playing D etc.....

Hopefully never.

Except both were injured before the Olympics....

Anyone who actually thought Mantha could be moved was out of their damn minds.

It truly amazes me how idiotic some people are acting about the players participating in the Olympics. First the Pav thing, now this.
Hank's back has been injured for a couple years now, its been an ongoing thing. Anyone who follows the Wings knows this. If he hadn't tweaked it in the Olympic game, he would have tweaked it in the next Wings game.

Listening to the interview with Team Sweden's doctor, I'm less worried. Sounds like it's the same thing he's been dealing with every now and then the last couple of weeks. Not good of course, but doesn't seem like anything that's likely to keep him out for very long, if he even misses the game tomorrow.
It sucks that both Z and Pav are playing through these injuries but what can you do. I for one would think it's worse if they miss maybe their final chance at Olympic gold.

The line Holland is wrong and kids can play in the NHL line

I'm not sure you can have Eaves sit at this point. He's playing really, really well.