Hockeytown_Ryan

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    thumbup.gif Good stuff. Keep it going into the 2nd season guys!

    I am absolutely blown away. Fantastic job.

    Very, very nice work. And that's coming from a fellow editor. :D

    That gave me goosebumps. I can't for the playoffs to start!!!!!!!

    Thank You - I hope we go into a decent run... I have some ideas and really would like to

    keep making these for the rounds of playoffs.

    I do wonder if there are any ideas for soundtrack? running low here.. Papa Roach - wanna be loved?

    what do you think?

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    I posted this in the "Creative " area of the forums..

    I just wanted to make sure everyone got a chance to see it

    (If they wanted to) I know not everybody looks in the Creative area of the forums on a

    regular basis (Mods/Admins- I am sorry)

    Enjoy! A look back and a good luck to our Red Wings!

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    The rules clearly state a goal is only allowed from a kicking motion if it then hits any players' stick other than the goalies. You can pretty much eliminate anything else - post, other player, dead octopi, etc...

    I believe the NHL did issue a statement that the puck hit Hossa's stick and fully crossed the goal line. You're trying to make sense of something that does not make sense.

    Did not get the memo.

  10. Posted · Edited by Hockeytown_Ryan · Report reply

    You are just grasping at straws.

    The puck cannot be kicked in. Whether it hits the post, an abandonded stick stick, or the goaltender before going in is irrelevant.

    These are the only exceptions for a kicked puck:

    Don't see how... IT counted....

    so just because of a kicking motion on the puck it cannot deflect off the post and go in and count....

    The rule states it cannot be kicked INTO the goal.... this case it was not! IF you think I am grasping here

    fine...

    but it was a kicking motion and should of been called no goal based on that alone!

    They may have thought the kicking motion was not toward the net...( Now I am Grasping ). if Hossa wanted it in I guess he could of punted it in with ease...he had 1/2 the cage!

  11. Posted · Edited by Hockeytown_Ryan · Report reply

    The puck wasn't kicked into the goal because it never crossed the line.

    If Hossa was awarded that goal he would have kicked it into the net and would have been the last player to have had hit the puck. There is no precedent for allowing kicked in goals that hit the post or abandoned sticks. If there was an exception they would have stated such.

    Last time I checked the goal counted. if it actually crossed or not is irrelevant at this point.

    The kicking motion alone should of negated that goal IMHO. it never should of gotten to the point of "Did it cross"

    I have said it before.. They did NOT get it right...I am trying to see what they saw and trying to figure out what

    they called that on.

    There are alot of people here that HATE the Refs and the inconsistancy of the calls. understandably so.

    But is it possible that the people who made the rules, know the interpretations of them slightly better than the fan base of the

    NHL? THEY saw something that the rule(s)that allowed that goal. Its not ALWAYS "Stupid People".

    Although this instance is VERY hard to argue that point.

    I am not playing Devils advocate here as I have been accused of doing. I am guilty of trying to

    investigate the rules, interpretations and uses of those rules to try and figure out "What the F*%K they were thinking"

    that does not make me a advocate for the officials...It makes me a confused fan looking for some kind of logic in this.

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    I am saying out and out the league plans who wins, I just think there are too many coincidences going on here with bad calls. There is undoubtedly some major correlation going on.

    We will see tonight. With Chicago on the bubble of sorts... Lets see what kind of crap happends.

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    Hold on now....The rule states A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who kicks a puck that deflects into the net off any player, goalkeeper or official. but its ok to be kicked towards the goalpost and then it goes in?

    Not saying it can, But I am not saying it can't. But you interpret the rule the same as I do.

    There is no stipulation saying it can't be deflected off the goal post or piece of lost equipment

    laying on the ice. The puck clearly was NOT kicked INTO the goal. It was kicked tho.....

    In some situations I wish the officials in all sports had to be held accountable for their actions to the fan base.

    Explain how, what, and why.

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    You claim its not a shot on goal if it hits the post... but using that logic you are proving that it never crossed the line. If it is shot off of the post and goes into the net, then obviously it is a shot on goal, however, if it merely hits the post and therefore isn't a true shot on goal... then obviously it never crossed the line.

    You are really reaching for arguments now and its confusing why you are playing devil's advocacy on this obvious travesty of a call.

    Or not kicked in either...

    say what you want I never said they got it right... Just trying to understand WHY it was called the way it was. that's all.

    It's obvious they are not gonna change the way they call it because WE say it was wrong.

    But I don't mind trying to see what they saw and understand it.. I don't understand this one... I am not gonna shed a tear over it

    either.... It's not like it never happened to us ( Bad Calls - Bad Reviews) Just trying to add to the conversation. I havent once said anyone else is WRONG

    or they are only blinded by rage...

  15. Posted · Edited by Hockeytown_Ryan · Report reply

    Regardless of whether or not the kick was directed at the net, you CANNOT score a goal by hitting the puck with a distinct kicking motion. If Toronto had access to the overhead view (which they did) then there is no reason the ruling on the ice shouldn't have been overturned. This was about as clear-cut of a non-goal as you can get.

    Overruled.

    See :D

    I know that, But it says nothing of deflections off abandon equipment or the post of the net. .....That was my main point.

  16. Posted · Edited by Hockeytown_Ryan · Report reply

    It would not be a goal because the last deliberate action on the puck was the kick by Hossa. It doesn't matter if the kicking motion was towards the net or not. If the puck enters the net as a result of a kicking motion then it is not a goal.

    OK Agreed... ( I am not trying to be argumentative ...BUT)

    We know they maybe made a bad call.. they will never say WHY they called it that or why it was called this! So we may never know

    This is what I came up with..take it for what its worth, Ignore it..what ever you want.

    49.2 Goals - Kicking the puck shall be permitted in all zones. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who uses a distinct kicking motion to propel the puck into the net. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who kicks a puck that deflects into the net off any player, goalkeeper or official.

    The puck was kicked yes..but it was not at the net. His kicking motion was off the post..which is not a shot on goal. SO..in keeping with that....

    A puck that deflects into the net off an attacking player's skate who does not use a distinct kicking motion is a legitimate goal. A puck that is directed into the net by an attacking player's skate shall be a legitimate goal as long as no distinct kicking motion is evident. The following should clarify deflections following a kicked puck that enters the goal:

    Nothing is definitive on the deflection off post or any equipment lying on the ice. Assuming the puck deflects off a discarded stick and goes in....It would be ruled a good goal.

    the same would be if it was deflected off the post of the goal. So Here is my ultimate and "who gives a crap" look at what I think the NHL was thinking.

    A) the puck was kicked but it was not at the goal, or it would of went in and NO GOAL would of been the call on the ice.

    B) the puck deflected off the post(s) and waffled in on edge with momentum going into the net...

    SO I guess that's why it was called good.

    The rule does not state that the "Last deliberate action on the puck must be......" So I am not convinced that the call should of been made by that alone. (Had it gone in direct off the skate- I agree no goal is the right call) They made the call based on interpretations of rules that they enforce. Beyond that.. I have no clue.

    Ill Finish this off so you don't have to say another word... something like this right??

    LGW Nation Mr. Hockeytown?

    Hockeytownryan: Yes, sir?

    LGW Nation: That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection.

    Hockeytownryan: Thank you, sir.

    LGW Nation: Overruled.

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  17. Posted · Edited by Hockeytown_Ryan · Report reply

    The best angle:

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    I kinda see the puck waffling on edge near the far post....(behind Conklin) If it was on edge over the goal line that is a goal is it not?

    And if Hossa wanted to kick it in the net he had a ass-load of space.. was the kicking motion toward the net?

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    Full disclosure: There is no Kayleigh Lynn Anderson. Her family members are fictional, as are her coach, school, and the dude that sells tickets for the Sens and his nephew.

    Happy April Fool's Day everyone.

    Thanks to those who played along (Call to Arms specifically) and, to the rest of you, GOTCHA!

    Your like the Ernest Hemingway of Bullcrap! very well done!

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