I don't want the Joe to get knocked down. Renovated I can deal with, but I still like the Joe. I don't go to the Wings games to look at all the new things they have there, I go to watch the game. I've sat in a couple different places and never had a bad seat, although if I sat in one of those corners it would be since I'm short and wouldn't be able to see in front of me. Like someone else said, if I'm hungry I eat before I go to the game because there is no where to set anything down. The lines for the bathrooms are crazy to.. if you have to go and you wait until intermission for the girls your lucky if you get out before the next period starts it seems. So yah, I can deal with it getting renovated but getting a new arena itsn't something I feel is needed.