So this guy brings football talk onto a hockey board?? Genius! I guess whever you can't win the argument change the subject, and make fun of the person you are talking to. And let's slow up on making fun of the sad state of the greater Detroit area. Maybe he should check his own town out. It's not like Pittsburgh is considered to be one of the most beatiful cities in the country. It's a freaking steeltown, it's just as blue collar as Detroit, so keep your stones in your pockets. And let's not forget that the whole Finals were set up perfect for the "young Penguins". The "old" Wings had to play back to back games to start the series after going 7 games in a physical battle with the Ducks, while the Hurricanes just layed on their backs and took it for 4 games from the Pens so the Pens could get some rest. If you lose, you lose. If you win, you win. Losing fans love to always find the best excuses. Series isn't over yet.