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Islanders - Sabers 1:1 5 shots on Miller so far midway the second. Wow!

iginla loosing his cool?

I second that! Go Hasek Go!

Tough call. I would go with Datsyuk as the finish matters most and he was the best in the second part.

I think that this time it will be the Wings who will play with desperation. They will be out there to prove they do not choke. If dom/ozzie do not completely break down, which I they most likely won't, Detroit will win it 5 max. :flamingmad:

Wings in 20. Enough of early exits.

Piece of art!!! BTW, which font is it?

I second that!

I am too lazy to dig either, the only thing I remember is that Hasek's GAA in Nagano Olympics was below 1.0. Is there anything to be added? If he is even a shadow of that Hasek, the Wings will go far. That said, it is 2007 now and, despite being a Hasek fan, I am on my toes to see if he still has it. I would love to see a Hasek Brodeur showdown at the end of the stretch, although it is highly unlikely.

5:1 Wings Hudler 2, Datsyuk 2, Bert Edit: Spelling

If the going rate is "Brodeur is the best ever/best of his era" than he is indeed overrated. As on today, Brodeur and Hasek have almost identical GAA 2.21 vs. 2.20. Their Sv% is quite a different matter - Brodeur (behind a much better team than the Sabers, mind you) has had only ONE season when his Sv% was better than Hasek's AVERAGE throughout his career. Brodeur 96/97 had .927, Hasek's average is .923 with multiple season of .930 and more (five). No metric is really reliable and tells the whole story, so we can keep arguing this back and forth until hell freezes over, but for the sake of the quality of this discussion I would suggest you start using some hard data.

In principle, you cannot compare goalies/players even within the same era, because each of them plays/ed behind a different team which means different amount of help boosting/sinking their stats Not to speak about the fact that the game itself has changed over time dramatically. Would Brodeur be as good as he is statistically if he played behind a crappy/mediocre team? Nobody knows and nobody ever will. Fact is Hasek played behind a below-average squad in Bufallo and got six Vezinas, 2 Harts, and once carried his team to game 6 of playoff finals. This makes him better in my eyes. Better as far as quality goes. In one game. Brodeur as well as Roy, got an impressive amount of wins because they are/were durable. They ca/could play an unthincable amount of games over a long time. If durability is the most important and luck of playing behind a defensive team count as the key argument for best ever, then Brodeur indeed is or will be the best ever. In my eyes, though, even though there is no doubt they were/are also elite goalies they were not the best. Unless I see Brodeur play stellar behind a s***ty team, I am not convinced that he merits the title of "best ever". PS. In principle all these threads comparing diffent players are a bit silly because of all the uncontrollable variables . Nevertheless we all like them and won't stop. Removing Brodeurs SO wins is a different thing altogether. It is a perk Parent did not enjoy, which is why it should not count against Parent's result. Edit. Grammar and "the same era" for "one era"

Brodeur has got exactly 10 SO WINS in his stats which means that in Parent's world he would be 38 - 33 (OT wins I counted as wins since I do not know if there was overtime in Parent's time) Wow, [/u]38 wins, very unimpressive by Parent's standards. [/u] And it does not even merit a laugh. Edit: Grammar.

has anyone counted how many of these wins are OT? You simply cannot count them in when comparing Brodeur to Parents record. Deduce the OT wins and you'll see that Brodeur is nothing special compared to Bernie. Waaaaay overrated.

To bych nerekl. Minimalne Hudler urcite Lang je mrcha lina a ... no tohle prekladat nebudu.

Smartest comment of a season! .............................................................................. it may not be the most exciting thread of the year (as someone cared to point out), but this forum is certainly a better forum because of it. It shows class. Edit: I still havent gotten used to the fact that if you post two in a row, they merge.

5:2 wings

Ugh. There is nothing that you cannot spoil and turn upside down. Here, like saying. There is NOTHING good in Detroit, save playing for the Wings. BS.

you with CIA or NSA? isnt it a day late for that???

You arent getting it man! its just figure skating with a puck. And the puck is the least important part of the game! edit: grammar

Yeah and Hasek and Lang have just bet who will have more points in the playoffs!

Offsides, the stuff on Hudler you put together is hilarious. "Red Uhl"

I dont have the strenght to read the whole story - were there any weak goals allowed by Dom or just defensive breakdowns?

They played in Budapest and the final score was 2:1! And it was ice-hockey!

Det wins it 3:1 to set the tone for the playoffs and to make some room should they decide to lose one or two to Columbus ...