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I just don't see the point in signing a rental veteran Dman at this point, especially since we signed quincey again.
The only thing that would have been a good signing is a Dman such as Erhoff or Niskanen that can improve the team now and in the future. Because that wasn't possible, we should have just stayed put and went with what we have. Signing Salo might help us make the 8th seed again, but it doesnt allow any of the rookies to get any playing time.
IF we were to be fortunate enough to rid of Kindl/Lash then a vet such as Salo would be great. But who is Holland to cut dead weight?

PAIN TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

0 games played.

Not pumped about this at all.
He was extremely ineffective for long stretches of the season and now hes just a year older, with a bad back.
This off -season is looking more and more like its going to be the same old stuff. Excited to see which fringe NHLer 6th pairing defenceman we will be signing next

Not pumped about this at all.
He was extremely ineffective for long stretches of the season and now hes just a year older, with a bad back.
This off -season is looking more and more like its going to be the same old stuff. Excited to see which fringe NHLer 6th pairing defenceman we will be signing next

Not pumped about this at all.
He was extremely ineffective for long stretches of the season and now hes just a year older, with a bad back.
This off -season is looking more and more like its going to be the same old stuff. Excited to see which fringe NHLer 6th pairing defenceman we will be signing next

I'm sorry, but even the video games would laugh at that offer.

As bad as hes become, I'd still take him over cleary.
But what do I know, im not Ken Holland

As bad as hes become, I'd still take him over cleary.
But what do I know, im not Ken Holland

As bad as hes become, I'd still take him over cleary.
But what do I know, im not Ken Holland

WHAT
WHHHHHAT
NO GOD

By who ?

Boyle is a shell of his former self. He was a great defenceman a few years ago but has found himself on the wrong side of 35; and just like most defenceman at this age, is not able to keep up with the new NHL.
Sharks fans generally agree that his time has come as well, they are not upset at him leaving. If he isn't good enough for their team, he shouldnt be for ours either based on the amount of kids we need to start having playing time

The main factor is style of play... Sid is a FREAK along the boards which would be amazing with dats, plus he can set up/finish while not being a liability on defence. Hes also a power forward Kane is basically a dats 0.5 with less puck control/more agility so barring one of them wanting the puck more, I think they would be awesome together Vanek is soft, which does not bode well with datsyuk. He plays well with Z b/c he plays a PWF style

I would literally throw up everywhere then torch Holland's house

No way in hell I want Diving Devin Setoguchi anywhere near this team. I still remember him flopping all over the ice that one year in the playoffs. It's been said before that he even dives in shootouts!
But some size couldn't hurt.
I'm in Vancouver and they talk about Kassian all the time on Team 1040 and I'm not sure he could be had for cheap. At least if you believe the guys on the radio that is. There was talk at length of someone trying to sign him and paying the compensation.

This would probably be a good enough deal... and I wouldnt do it

Ken Holland quote August 31st 2014:
Ultimately, we kicked some tires but the price was too steep to bring in a free agent RH defenceman. We feel the return of a more experienced Quincey and Kindl solidifies our backend. The return of a healthy pav and Z gives us all we need and franzen tells me he has been resurged.
I traded tatar and 2 conditional 1st round picks for the rights to Chris Chelios, but ultimately I did not kick the tires hard enough and we won't be adding his veteran leadership this season.

Can we buy out Holland instead?

No, we lost one of our best prospects who fills a whole that this team desperately needs in a scoring right handed center.
We made the playoffs which is great, but I think we could have done it without Legwand, or even with jarncrok in that position. Legwand was irrelevant IMO.
The pick is now a second rounder, which can easily become a good player
Basically, we traded a 2nd pick (pretty high one too) and a promising prospect for 5 extra games of hockey.

No, we lost one of our best prospects who fills a whole that this team desperately needs in a scoring right handed center.
We made the playoffs which is great, but I think we could have done it without Legwand, or even with jarncrok in that position. Legwand was irrelevant IMO.
The pick is now a second rounder, which can easily become a good player
Basically, we traded a 2nd pick (pretty high one too) and a promising prospect for 5 extra games of hockey.

Hes on this team because every line has a role. Glendenning fits the shutdown center role EXTREMELY well
Dats is now able to play against other team's 2,3,4 line because glendenning is somehow capable of shutting down other teams top centers.
Not every player needs to provide offence, especially a 4th liner
As per the thread:
I despise Quincey Kindl Bertuzzi and right now Franzen

I agree that most coaches would jump at the chance to coach for Detroit, but Holland is circling the drain. The last 5 years have been a string of abysmal signings and free agent acquisitions. He was handed the keys to the Cadillac with Yzerman, Lidstrom, and a host of other star players, and every year we've lost talent and replaced it with either imports / minor league players that don't live up to their billing or washed up free agents. Ken Holland gets way too much credit for the Red Wings' success. All of his "accomplishments" can be attributed to the talents and machinations of Mike Ilitch, Jim Devellano, Bryan Murray, Scotty Bowman, and Mike Babcock.

The addition of bertuzzi is the worst coaching decision ive seen in awhile