Wingsfan72

You're really cool.

Right, Corey Perry's antics are comparable to the s*** Chris Neil was pulling. How many times has he ripped a (very recently concused) player's helmet off and punched them in the face? At no point did I say this team, or any teams for that matter, need a player who's sole purpose is fighting. I just believe that there should be a point where a guy should stand up for himself or his teammate. I don't understand how that is such a bad thing. I don't really care for staged fighting, nor do I think a guy should get his ass kicked every time he makes a dirty hit or runs mouth or what have you. But in cases like last night and, for example, when Weber slammed Z's head into the glass, there should have been some kind of retaliation from the Wings.

I agree that they looked like a bunch of sore losers and I also would rather watch the boys play, but a freaking line has to be drawn somewhere, right? I mean, am I crazy here? Neil was on Franzen's case most of the game, that's hockey, that's what happens, but when a guy goes up to my teammate, pulls off his helmet and tries to start s*** after the game is already over, I'm stepping in. Call me classless, call me what you will but there has to be some kind of line that cannot be crossed. Really? These aren't children we're talking about here, these are grown men, professional athletes. Someone could have stepped in and done something. I mean, does a player have to be a fighter to fight? To stick up for their teammate? Every player has to have a limit, I mean even Yzerman got in a fight, Crosby has participated in and won fights. Would you consider them fighters? I'm not saying that there's not a major difference in size or fighting skill, but they're not kids out there. I may not be a big guy by any means, especially compared to the average professional hockey player, but if it gets to the point were someone from the other team is gooning up one of my guys in the manner that Neil was to Franzen, I'm going to defend my teammate or get my ass kicked trying. In my opinion there is something to be gained; a message is sent that we're not going to let other teams push us around. I've seen it a million times before, just like this game, where Wings are up and the other team is just taking a run at whoever they can. I'm not saying Wings should take stupid penalties and whatnot, but big hits and the occasional scrum when things get out of hand would help a lot, in my opinion. I guess I'm just tired of the idea that a player has to be a fighter in order to stick up for himself or his teammate. And I apologize for using the idiom "feed him his teeth" in place for "fight him". I obviously know we don't have any fighters that are in Neil's class, but I was admittedly pissed at the moment I had written that.

What af****** joke! Its a sad day when NYQUIST is the one stepping in for his teammate. Someone should've fed Neil his teeth well before that stunt. Good win but for f***'s sake someone grow a pair and stick up for their teammate! They totally bullied use the entire third period. .

Lets go Wings, lets get a win in regulation!

As long as we live in a Cap world we're going to have to let that comparison go. Suffice it to say that we probably would not be a bubble team (and neither would Columbus) if there was no cap. As far as Trading youth away goes, I don't see why so many are in support of it. People are crying for a change to help our future but are unable to see that players like Tatar, Nyquist, Mrazek, Dekeyser, etc ARE our future. Plus the pool of prospects we have are not looking too shabby. I'd say give it another season or two before we're trading the farm. If you look at it, tats and goose are having comparable (real) rookie seasons to Pav and Hank. FWIW

Has anyone actually bought these? I've seen a few at my local Meijer and they kind of look poorly made. I'm curious about their quality.

Honestly, I've never been one for trash talking outside of my own little group of friends watching/playing a game. I tend to think it brings out the worst in people...and parts of this thread are proving my beliefs to be well founded. It WAS a good game by BOTH teams, a good win for Canada and a tough loss for US. It really bums me out that people have to turn what should be a good-natured and high spirited celebration amongst friends and acquaintances into a childish pissing match. Its disappointing and it sucks the fun out of the whole event, for me at least. Though, at some point, people are going to have to learn how to take a little ribbing from the opposition, especially when they win. On another note I will say that I was really, really hoping the US would pull out a win from this one. I wanted redemption for 2010 so badly. The game was so tight that I figured that Benn's goal would be all that was needed. US just couldn't seem to break Canada's defense. I was sweating bullets the whole game haha. GO SWEDEN! (which is basically like saying "Go Wings!")

Wow that is scary. All the best to him.

A lot of dicks on this forum. Kid played his role and didn't ***** when he was yo-yo'ed back and forth with the minors. He might not be the most amazing player by any stretch of the imagination, but at least he shows up, shuts up and does his job. I'm more appreciative of what he's done for this team, as little as it may be, than I am of what Cleary and Sammy have done this season (which is even less). But, then again, he doesn't score 20 goals with 5 minutes of ice time, so he's a mediocre piece of garbage....who makes league minimum I might add, not 1.7M or 3M.

That looked a lot like he was going for the puck...

Weiss was pretty awful on that 6th goal...It could have been prevented by some, you know, backcheck. I'm still waiting for him to "find his game". My patience for our new Wing grows thin.

He will be sent back to GR and there will subsequently be a fresh batch of "Fire Holland/Babcock" , "trade Smith" and other "I'm pissed off" threads. I'm hoping he pulls a DeKeyser and does so well that he becomes a mainstay...but this is unlikely, unfortunately.

Wow, some of the worst officiating I've seen in a while. Wow. Weiss is not looking too good out there. I really hope he finds his rhythm soon.

I didn't see the need to start another thread as this is basically the same subject, but I found this article today titled "Your 2021-2022 Detroit Red Wings", gave it a read, and I'm interested in what everyone else thinks about it. http://thehockeywriters.com/2021-2022-detroit-red-wings/ I'm surprised Nyquist is slotted as the Captain. Not that I don't think he could be a great leader, I just really have a feeling Deke is going to be the cornerstone of this team once the "new wave" begins, after Z and Pav retire... I'm loving that Abby is still an established first line forward 8 years from now, too. lol Thoughts?

Any argument is invalid.

I actually loved seeing this. I'm sure Avs fans are loving their new coach. I personally think Roy is awesome, a little excessive, but awesome. I'm hoping he finds success with the Avs. I'm confused; are you implying Roy is woman-beater because he is crazy on the ice? Or is there some back story to that that I don't know of?

Yes!

I think more often than not Wings will just let them keep "baiting", not oblige and draw a penalty. I does appear that teams are trying to "welcome" us to the East, though. I think it's good for re-sparking old rivalries, not to mention the freebie power plays we'll be getting will be pretty nice Now if the officiating in the preseason is any indication of how it is going to be in the regular season, then we will have something to worry about. Lots of no-calls and phantom calls when other players are trying to instigate, I mean.

I was only able to watch parts of the Pens game and I have to say I'm understanding the negative rep Smitty's been getting here on LGW. The few games I've seen him in this preseason were not that good. I'm hoping he turns things around when the season starts up. I still think there is a lot of untapped potential with him, too. Maybe he'll pull a Quincey and flourish with another team - in a hypothetical scenario that has him traded, of course. The silver lining in the whole thing, for me, is that we are so deep with defensive prospects that we could probably afford to trade him if that scenario did present itself. I'd imagine that he could get a pretty decent return as well, or otherwise be a big piece of a larger trade. For the record I like Smith and I hope he stays and gets better. I'm just an optimist and I like to look for the positive side of potential negatives (Smith staying in this funk and/or getting traded). Exactly how many players on this team are not terrible, or "losers" as you have said before? In your assuredly very astute, non-opprobrious opinion, I mean.

Preseason. lol nice

Babcock does NOT look like Willem Dafoe! That's it. That's where I draw the line. I'm officially offended. "Harumph!"

Why not have all the games take place outdoors and have one indoor Heritage Classic?

Um......I missed this game.....

"Yo-ahh-kim" Nordstrom