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In his defense, everything else he's tried has also not worked.

Kids? Goooooood. Veterans? Baaaaad.

Just started watching... losing already I see.

After the haul Detroit got from Vegas for Tatar, I'd be surprised if they're not hoping/won't be looking to get a good haul for him this year - obviously not as much since Nyquist will be a UFA, but still.

Disagree. Nyquist needs to have a solid year so the Wings can get an asset for him at the deadline. Zadina can come up then, if he's ready... or earlier if the forwards get hit by injuries like the D has, but not instead of a healthy Nyquist.

Yeah.... ooh, but he's played more games so not a fair comparison!

That goaltending made AA's breakaway attempt look decent.

Come on, man. Even if you did call it first and you weren't saying it for 3 years... does any of that actually matter? Oh man, we're never going to see the heart and soul captain of the team, a guy that we've watched play for 15 years that we all wanted to see play another season and hit 1,000 points, etc. etc. .... we're not going to get to see him play again.... but, LeftWinger told us so, so.....what? Did I imagine this or did someone post on here somewhat recently that she died? Or was that some kind of inside joke that I didn't get because I'm not on here regularly enough?

Right. He definitely existed also. So, yeah, since you're not implying that Meech would've had the same or similar success as Quincey had their situations been reversed... then you have a very low opinion of Holland, I guess?

Are you implying that, had their situations been reversed, Meech would've had the same or similar success as Quincey did in LA and Colorado?

Well, because you need more than 6 defensemen and mid-late round draft pick rookies are cheap. Plus, Quincey got the call in the 07 playoffs over Meech and filled in decently. Anyway, I don't think there's much argument that Quincey's 08-10 for LA/Colorado was better than what Meech brought to the table for Detroit during that time period. .... Also, as I said, if they had kept Quincey then, they wouldn't have traded a 1st round pick to get him back 3 or 4 years later.

If they'd just kept Quincey instead of Derek (f-ing) Meech like they should have back in 2008 or whenever that was, that crap trade never happens. Mistake upon mistake. Say what you will about KFQ, but he's better than DFM.

Jackman Grant Laurie, Hughs

I think his last NHL game would've been in the 2nd round or so that year. If he had played in the SCF, his name would be on the Cup, right?

Solid points. Being runner-up in 97 Norris voting (probably would've increased future award consideration), the likelihood of 3 or so Cups, being a part of the Russian Five, and having a better team to cover him up in his later years might have increased Konstantinov's HHOF resume.

Yeah, I just saw it as.... realistically, if Rasmussen and Zadina both make the roster and Zetterberg is healthy enough to play, I don't think there's a way any of those 3 are regular scratches. So, that would mean that one of 1) Larkin, 2) Mantha, 3) Nyquist, 4) Neilsen, 5) Abdelkader, 6) Helm, 7) Vanek, 8) Athanasiou, 9) Bertuzzi, and 10) Glendening would be a regular scratch...and I don't think that's likely to happen. So (besides another injury to one of those 10) the only was both Rasmussen and Zadina make the opening roster is if Zetterberg isn't on it.

So, you're also assuming that Zetterberg is done? I figure that's the only way Zadina and Rasmussen both make the Detroit roster. Is it now just generally expected that Zetterberg won't play anymore?

1. Calling the Rangers a better team to support your argument is pretty weak. They finished a whole 1 spot above Detroit in the east and also missed the playoffs easily. Detroit was 2-0-1 against the Rangers this season. The Rangers were 3-11-2 in games that Ryan Sproul played. Also, your statement that Sproul beat Daley in every statistical category per game is inaccurate. 1 goal in 16 games is not better than 9 in 77. 2. This statement is completely unsubstantiated. The team's performance for an entire season can't be blamed on one player (unless it's the goaltender, in some cases). 4. We already know what we have/had in XO, Sproul, and Jensen. XO is passably responsible, but has little offensive upside and is always the slowest skater on the ice....I'd just assume play Lashoff at this point - I think they have the same ceiling. Sproul is the defenseman equivalent of Tomas Jurco (a LGW super-hyped prospect that turned out to be a fringe-NHL player). The fact that he couldn't stick around here over XO speaks volumes about his time in the organization. Jensen I actually like, but I like him only if he is a bottom pairing or #7 defenseman on the team and continues to get paid essentially the league minimum...again, though, he's already shown what he is. I agree that it would've been nice to see more of Hicketts at the NHL level this season (since he's the only one of those you listed for which the team would need to figure out "what they have"), but for me that's as simple as waiving XO.

Currently, I think the league would be quite happy with Pittsburgh or Washington in the finals as well.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

So, I was thinking the Cup winner picks last... is that not the case? Couldn't care less what the league wants.

Would like to see win: Columbus, Nashville, Winnipeg...Washington or Tampa wouldn't be too bad either Would hate to see win: Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boston, Vegas (only because of the pick). All other teams: meh.

If we lose, I don't think we need Vancouver to lose. The rest of it, yeah.

I'd rather have had Brian Leetch.