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think about where Ovi's totals would be if he didnt lose time during his prime from the lockout

He’s played 35 games in the NHL. I’m not sure how anyone can label his career anything at this point. Maybe it’s only a “hot streak”, maybe it’s a stepping stone into something else. But at least for now he’s been good for the team. Since Dec 1st, the only one on the team who has scored more points than Zadina is Larkin. So keep riding that and see if he continues to grow.

The other half of that is finding a willing buyer. A quick look through the recent past shows 1st overalls are rarely traded to begin with, and when they are have generally tended to be traded with another asset (2nd rounder, player, etc) for something like a top 5 pick +/- 3rd rounder or middle-tier player, which isn’t the haul we are necessarily talking about here. I don’t think GMs as a whole are as dumb as armchair GMs believe. Trades don’t happen because we want them to.

Literally would be the only thing I watch tbh if I tune in. The traditional all star game never appealed to me because, well, I’ve never cared to watch a bunch of stars half-ass it out there and try to look pretty with their passes that don’t matter, and there is no incentive to really put forth a serious effort by them. The woman’s game might actually be a competition. edit: maybe everything already happened? I haven’t been paying close enough attention apparently

omg lets go Stevie

that is what teams hire GMs to win, yes.

as a GM, how many cups has he won?

Some people are incapable of conceptualizing that a team cannot remain a Stanley cup contender for 30 years straight in a salary cap era. So then rash decisions happen and quality people are removed simply for the sake of change. So instead of proven winners in Babcock and Holland running the ship we have two unproven commodities. Meanwhile the personelle we let walk are continuing to ice competitive teams, just for different cities now.

it comes off a bit like a power move to let everyone know that Yzerman is in charge of this team tbh

Prologue: There has been a lot of ongoing discussion in the 2016 entry draft thread regarding the decisions that Holland and co made or did not make. Some folks think his moves were solid moves and will pay off in the future. Others think that he messed up and he should have did X, Y, and Z. The thing about decisions at the draft is none of us will definitively know the outcome of these decisions until well in the future when we can see see which prospects were home runs, which were busts, and which needed some seasoning but turned into solid acquisitions. I don't know what the accepted timeline is to determine that, but I think by five years we will have a good idea of what kind of player we have. We obviously can't fast forward five years to see how things turn out, but we can rewind five years and revisit what the discussions were regarding the 2011 entry draft. I think this might be a fun thing to do annually, especially because there isn't a whole lot of other exciting things to talk about in the offseason on a hockey forum. That means all your goofy and ridiculous comments are fair game to be quoted five years from now! Anyway here are the threads for the 2011 entry draft: 1st round pick (24th overall): Traded to Ottawa for 35th and 48th picks http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/69925-2011-nhl-draft-round-1-discussion/?hl=%2B2011+%2Bdraft 2nd through 7th round picks: http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/69929-2011-nhl-draft-rounds-2-7-discussion/?hl=%2B2011+%2Bdraft -2nd round pick (35th overall): Tomas Jurco -2nd round pick (48th overall): Xavier Ouellet -2nd round pick (55th overall): Ryan Sproul -3rd round pick (85th overall): Alan Quine -4th round pick (115th overall): Marek Tvrdon -5th round pick (145th overall): Philippe Hudon -6th round pick (175th overall): Richard Nedomiel -7th round pick (205th overall): Alexei Marchenko Some interesting observations: One poster wanted the Wings to pick Jaime Oleksiak with our first round pick, and projected him as a top 3 NHL defensman (currently part of the Dallas Stars organization but has endlessly bounced back and forth between the AHL and the NHL). He was picked 14th overall, well before our 24th pick, anyway. There was lots of love for Jurco leading up to our pick (even in the first round). Opinions were mixed regarding the Wings trading down. Some folks thought it was smart, some folks thought we were better off using our first round pick on a player. It caused a bit of a stir. Today that first round pick is Tomas Jurco and Xavier Ouellete. There was also lots of love for Joe Morrow, who ended up going to the Pens, who picked 23rd. Hes currently a part of the Bruins organization, and has played 48 games total in the NHL, including 33 last season. Everyone seemed to love the second round. People were high on Jurco, Ouellete, and Sproul. There was some hope for Saad to be drafted as well. Some folks believed that Tvrdon and Quine were the steals of the draft. Something I found particularly entertaining regarding that last bit: well here we are. The knuckle-draggers loved the Nedomiel pick. He had a knack for being a tough stay and home defender, apparently, with lots of fights under his belt. Folks didn't seem to know how to take the Marchenko pick. Some thought it was a solid pick up considering he was highly ranked in the previous year's draft, but others thought that was a bad sign that he wasn't drafted and taken in the last round by us the following year. There was also some question on whether he would even be interested in coming to the NHL, also. Anyway, enjoy thumbing through those threads!

they are going to be a lot of fun to watch

I feel like Sulak should have had more opportunity with the club. Every game I saw him in he was outstanding

at least I wasn't one of those pretentious clowns who says "present"

here I am

you are running this thread boss

Ken Holland went from the undisputed best GM to ever walk the planet to the worst GM in the league in the fan’s eyes. I wonder what might happen with Yzerman if the Wings haven’t won a cup in 3-5 years.

there is no escaping it for me :/

Things are going great I hope your intern year has been smooth!

I seem to recall a game back when Murphy was doing color commentary for us where Mickey or Ken asked him a question and he didn't respond and they chalked it up to technical difficulties, and during the game you could see that he wasn't between the benches. Then a couple shifts later he was suddenly back, talking, and enjoying a hot dog lol, presumably retrieved during the 'technical difficulty' Does anyone else remember this or did I dream it?

We cant go winning too many games now can we

It feels like forever since I've seen any hockey

did he earn the Pavel

are we mathematically eliminated yet??

3rd round steal?

I look at the beginning of the season as the Wings underperforming mireso than I do Blashill getting them to overperform now. Granted there were injuries early on and fresh blood adapting to NHL play but I think for years this team has played below their potential.