What's up ladies and gents? I'm going to try to pull the trigger on a Detroit and Tornonto vacation over the Fall sometime, my inital thoughts would be late September or early November.
Are flights around Michigan cheaper in September as opposed to November or vice versa?
What would be some cool places to stay that are fairly affordable for roughly a week?
I'm also thinking I'd rent a car in Detroit and drive around the sights in Detroit and Toronto and in between. Any border laws that I need to think of? Should I consider something else in terms of transportation?
Any information is much appreciated, thanks all!
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 10:21 PM
I have never flown, but as for renting a vehicle. Rent a car from a Hertz HLE Location because it will be 1/2 the price than the airport locations.
All the heads up I can give you... Also, if you fly into Flint, which is 1 1/2 hours north of Detroit, it will be cheaper probobly. Even if you fly into Toronto, prob would be cheaper. Then could take a train to Port Huron or Downtown Detroit.
All the heads up I can give you... Also, if you fly into Flint, which is 1 1/2 hours north of Detroit, it will be cheaper probobly. Even if you fly into Toronto, prob would be cheaper. Then could take a train to Port Huron or Downtown Detroit.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:38 AM
| QUOTE (SouthernWingsFan @ May 3, 2005 - 08:03PM) |
| What's up ladies and gents? I'm going to try to pull the trigger on a Detroit and Tornonto vacation over the Fall sometime, my inital thoughts would be late September or early November. Are flights around Michigan cheaper in September as opposed to November or vice versa? What would be some cool places to stay that are fairly affordable for roughly a week? I'm also thinking I'd rent a car in Detroit and drive around the sights in Detroit and Toronto and in between. Any border laws that I need to think of? Should I consider something else in terms of transportation? Any information is much appreciated, thanks all! |
If you dont have one already you should go and get a passport just to be on the safe side. Just got back from Toronto. We never actually made it into Toronto though, we stayed in Brampton the whole time. The airport there wasnt bad at all. Cant say much about Detroit, I'm flying there in October for the first time in a LONG time.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:42 AM
oh jack... there's no way we're letting you in this country
you better brush up on canadian history and all things canadian. they give you a little quiz to let you in the country. if you fail the quiz you can redeem yourself by singing a song from celine dion and or shania twain.
you better brush up on canadian history and all things canadian. they give you a little quiz to let you in the country. if you fail the quiz you can redeem yourself by singing a song from celine dion and or shania twain.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 10:07 AM
Right now you should picture ID and a copy of a birth certificate to cross the border. If you have a passport, that's the best.
I've generally found flying into Detroit is the cheapest way to go, but make sure you check Flint too.
I've generally found flying into Detroit is the cheapest way to go, but make sure you check Flint too.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 10:25 AM
| QUOTE (SouthernWingsFan @ May 3, 2005 - 11:03PM) |
| I'm also thinking I'd rent a car in Detroit and drive around the sights in Detroit |
ya, those abondoned sky scrapers are a sight to see.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 12:48 PM
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| celine dion and or shania twain. |
Exactly why you should let SWF in. You owe us.
I've never made it past Ontario, but my sister regularly takes the train from Detroit to Toronto. You may want to investigate that possiblility.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 06:44 PM
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ya, those abondoned sky scrapers are a sight to see. |
Hey. Don't be dissin' Hockeytown.
There are plenty of great things to do and see in Detroit.Jack, I don't think the difference in month that you travel will matter. You might be best off flying to Detroit (check Flint, too... it depends on the airline, but it's often cheaper to fly to DTW. You might try Toledo, but not only will it cost more, you'll have to trust Sting11 to direct your plane in correctly.)
Sign up for the Northwest Airlines email cyberfares. They're likely to have some sales on fall travel posted in the middle of the summer. You can book with them online (get more FF miles), check in online (get more FF miles), etc.
As for car rental, check with the companies to see if they'll allow you to take a car from the US to Toronto. You might have to rent a car here in Motown, then hop over the border and take the train to Toronto. Not much reason that you need a car in To... the subway is great, and it's a very walkable town.
You're probably gonna want to wait until the Wings season is announced so you know when to come. You have to catch a good game when you're here. BTW, don't even entertain the idea of getting tix to the Joe to play a team like COL, unless you know somebody I don't, or you're independently wealthy. If you are, I'll be happy to keep you company at the game.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:05 PM
| QUOTE (SouthernWingsFan @ May 3, 2005 - 11:03PM) |
| What's up ladies and gents? I'm going to try to pull the trigger on a Detroit and Tornonto vacation over the Fall sometime, my inital thoughts would be late September or early November. Are flights around Michigan cheaper in September as opposed to November or vice versa? What would be some cool places to stay that are fairly affordable for roughly a week? I'm also thinking I'd rent a car in Detroit and drive around the sights in Detroit and Toronto and in between. Any border laws that I need to think of? Should I consider something else in terms of transportation? Any information is much appreciated, thanks all! |
Well, they just instituted a policy where they cavity search occupants of rental cars...so you might want to be aware of that one....
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:54 PM
| QUOTE (ontariowingsfan @ May 4, 2005 - 09:42AM) |
| oh jack... there's no way we're letting you in this country you better brush up on canadian history and all things canadian. they give you a little quiz to let you in the country. if you fail the quiz you can redeem yourself by singing a song from celine dion and or shania twain. |
A quiz?!?!?!!?!? NOOOOOOOOO!
I graduated college last year, I thought I was done with tests!
I guess I better study hard cause I'm a pretty lousy singer even when the music is cranked up in my car and I'm screaming.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:00 PM
| QUOTE (Muse @ May 4, 2005 - 06:44PM) | ||||
Hey. Don't be dissin' Hockeytown. There are plenty of great things to do and see in Detroit.Jack, I don't think the difference in month that you travel will matter. You might be best off flying to Detroit (check Flint, too... it depends on the airline, but it's often cheaper to fly to DTW. You might try Toledo, but not only will it cost more, you'll have to trust Sting11 to direct your plane in correctly.) Sign up for the Northwest Airlines email cyberfares. They're likely to have some sales on fall travel posted in the middle of the summer. You can book with them online (get more FF miles), check in online (get more FF miles), etc. As for car rental, check with the companies to see if they'll allow you to take a car from the US to Toronto. You might have to rent a car here in Motown, then hop over the border and take the train to Toronto. Not much reason that you need a car in To... the subway is great, and it's a very walkable town. You're probably gonna want to wait until the Wings season is announced so you know when to come. You have to catch a good game when you're here. BTW, don't even entertain the idea of getting tix to the Joe to play a team like COL, unless you know somebody I don't, or you're independently wealthy. If you are, I'll be happy to keep you company at the game. |
I am not the independently wealthy one, and I probably am choosing these times of the year cause I know I'm going to a handful of football games of my alma mater which requires cash and plane flights as well, and I want to get around the area before it gets really cold, so those ranges are kinda what I'm stuck with.
As for going to JLA, don't matter who they play as long as I can watch a game. If I gotta watch it at Hockeytown Cafe or wherever, that's fine as well.
Edited by SouthernWingsFan, 04 May 2005 - 08:02 PM.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:57 PM
| QUOTE (SouthernWingsFan @ May 4, 2005 - 09:00PM) |
| I am not the independently wealthy one, and I probably am choosing these times of the year cause I know I'm going to a handful of football games of my alma mater which requires cash and plane flights as well, and I want to get around the area before it gets really cold, so those ranges are kinda what I'm stuck with. As for going to JLA, don't matter who they play as long as I can watch a game. If I gotta watch it at Hockeytown Cafe or wherever, that's fine as well. |
Ha - the Hockeytown Cafe is generally packed on gamedays. You have to go to a good bar if you want a seat and a view of the game.
Oh, and it never gets cold here. It's just a myth.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:32 PM
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Ha - the Hockeytown Cafe is generally packed on gamedays. You have to go to a good bar if you want a seat and a view of the game. Oh, and it never gets cold here. It's just a myth. |
I guess the myth that it never snows in the Big Easy was proved wrong during Christmas as well.
Let's just go with snow once every 15 years.
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:57 PM
Personally, I'd fly into Metro. When I went to Florida last August and to Vegas this past January, Metro had the cheapest rates and that was checking both Flint and Toledo (with either you're going to have some stops along the way, more than likely.)
If you're coming in in the fall I'd highly recommend a college football game. Even if you're not a UofM fan, it's a great experience not just at the Big House, but before and after it.
IMO, Hockeytown Cafe is nice but it seems a little overrated. If you come later in the fall, once the NFL season starts up, Ford Field is a definite must-see. (Don't forget, the Super Bowl will be here in Feb..)
As for where you're staying -- it depends. The suburban areas are rife with hotels and places to stay. Just depends on what's easier for you in terms of driving distances, etc..
I may be biased, but I love the Royal Oak area. There's a lot of nice bars & resturants in the area (when the season is on a lot of Wings hang out in the RO/Ferndale/Birmingham area). Hockeytown Authentics and the Troy Sports Center (where Wings practice individually) isn't far.
If you're up for a little bit of driving (about 3 hours or so from Detroit), I'd HIGHLY recomment checking out Cedar Point if you get here around September before it gets too cold.
If you're coming in in the fall I'd highly recommend a college football game. Even if you're not a UofM fan, it's a great experience not just at the Big House, but before and after it.
IMO, Hockeytown Cafe is nice but it seems a little overrated. If you come later in the fall, once the NFL season starts up, Ford Field is a definite must-see. (Don't forget, the Super Bowl will be here in Feb..)
As for where you're staying -- it depends. The suburban areas are rife with hotels and places to stay. Just depends on what's easier for you in terms of driving distances, etc..
I may be biased, but I love the Royal Oak area. There's a lot of nice bars & resturants in the area (when the season is on a lot of Wings hang out in the RO/Ferndale/Birmingham area). Hockeytown Authentics and the Troy Sports Center (where Wings practice individually) isn't far.
If you're up for a little bit of driving (about 3 hours or so from Detroit), I'd HIGHLY recomment checking out Cedar Point if you get here around September before it gets too cold.
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Posted 05 May 2005 - 06:44 PM
I'd recommend DIA and the Motown Museum.
Also I see London has really good hockey team there. Plus the people I've met from there are really cool. So I'd think that'd be a must stop.
Also I see London has really good hockey team there. Plus the people I've met from there are really cool. So I'd think that'd be a must stop.
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Posted 05 May 2005 - 08:30 PM
Greektown.
Campus Martius.
Mexicantown.
The Henry Ford/Greenfield Village.
Cheli's Chili Bar.
Oh, there are lots of fun things to do around these parts.
Campus Martius.
Mexicantown.
The Henry Ford/Greenfield Village.
Cheli's Chili Bar.
Oh, there are lots of fun things to do around these parts.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
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Posted 05 May 2005 - 09:19 PM
One word of advice. Avoid Kwame's posse. Otherwise you'll end up a body floating in the Detroit River.
If you enjoy gambling, there's three casinos. You have to go to Greektown. If you want to see some history, go check out Tiger Stadium. You can't get it, but its great to see it.
If you want to see some hockey. scUM and Wayne State have teams. While I hate the Weasels with a passion, every hockey fan should experience a game at Yost.
If you enjoy gambling, there's three casinos. You have to go to Greektown. If you want to see some history, go check out Tiger Stadium. You can't get it, but its great to see it.
If you want to see some hockey. scUM and Wayne State have teams. While I hate the Weasels with a passion, every hockey fan should experience a game at Yost.
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Watch the vagrants at Campus Martius. It took 0.5 seconds for one to try to hit me up for money once I stepped foot out of my car. 
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Posted 06 May 2005 - 05:27 AM
| QUOTE (BlakChamber @ May 5, 2005 - 09:19PM) |
| One word of advice. Avoid Kwame's posse. Otherwise you'll end up a body floating in the Detroit River. If you enjoy gambling, there's three casinos. You have to go to Greektown. If you want to see some history, go check out Tiger Stadium. You can't get it, but its great to see it. If you want to see some hockey. scUM and Wayne State have teams. While I hate the Weasels with a passion, every hockey fan should experience a game at Yost. |
No gambling for me, I don't make much cash to begin with.
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Posted 06 May 2005 - 04:13 PM
| QUOTE (Mattias19 @ May 5, 2005 - 11:52PM) |
| Watch the vagrants at Campus Martius. It took 0.5 seconds for one to try to hit me up for money once I stepped foot out of my car. |
Aw, what does it hurt for someone to ask ya for money? The couple people I've talked to who were panhandling in the Campus Martius area seemed to be just as polite, if not moreso, than people asking for spare change in any other major city I've been in. And in the dozen or so trips I've had walking around the area, I've only been approached two or three times total. That is a LOT less than you get asked in many cities.
The last time I was at Campus Martius (staring at the blank wall which used to have Stevie's mural
), someone politely asked me if I had any change, and I didn't... but I offered the man part of my dinner, and he was very polite and thankful in accepting it. I lived in other major cities, and I can't tell you how many times I offered people food, and they said "no" (or something a bit more rude, but to that effect) because they didn't want to eat, they wanted to drink.I just don't want Jack to think he's gonna get mugged just by setting foot in Detroit. Too many people have a very unrealistic expectation of our city, thinking it is just one big murder after another. Detroit has many of the same issues you find in any major city. Yes, there are people who are homeless and panhandling. Yes, there are abandoned buildings. Yes, there are a lot of good people and a lot of fun things to do.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
There's no place like Hockeytown.
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