ToddDaGod 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2005 McGrath easily led the team with 87 points and seemed to have a great playoff year too. His team voted him most improved which is kinda obvious. Grigs seemed to get a lot better too as the season progressed. His team traded him or loaned him or something and he started scoring and playing well again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LondonWing 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2005 Good to hear about Grigorenko, will be great if he can make it with the Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bliz 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2005 I think Grigorenko has a decent chance of being in Grand Rapids next year, although I wouldn't be at all surprised if Holland let him stay in Russia. Regardless, a speedy goalscorer with a mean streak like Grigorenko sounds like just what the Wings need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddDaGod 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2005 He will be over next year, prolly for GR. He would have been over this year if he didn't almost die. He's gonna be awsome to watch. I don't know how long McGrath is away, but he will be quite a nice addition too, although he's nowhere near the physical presence Griggy is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2005 I hope Gregorenko doesn't turn out to be another Slava Kozlov. Before Kozlov's accident scouts were saying he had more talent than Federov. I also remember reading that some scouts felt Iggy's upside was just as good as Ovechkin's. The Wings have to seriously start hiring chauffers for these Russian prospects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted May 30, 2005 I hope Gregorenko doesn't turn out to be another Slava Kozlov. Before Kozlov's accident scouts were saying he had more talent than Federov. I also remember reading that some scouts felt Iggy's upside was just as good as Ovechkin's. The Wings have to seriously start hiring chauffers for these Russian prospects. That didn't work out too well with Konstantinov though. How about all Russian Red Wings players/prospects stick to the bus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 How about all Russian Wings get a chauffer who actually has a license? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddDaGod 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2005 Well, apparently now Grigs just signed with a russian team, making his N. American debut questionable. I hope they still bring him over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 I'm hopin Grigs does turn out to still hit his full potential. Because it was as good as Ovechkin...and if he pulls that out....Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Grigorenko will be kickin some butt for a GOOD long while. Add in Fischer/Kronwall, and Howard/Liv as the goalie tandem? Holy crap...lol. Great core unit for 10 years plus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingsfan4life24 Report post Posted June 9, 2005 I hope Gregorenko doesn't turn out to be another Slava Kozlov. Before Kozlov's accident scouts were saying he had more talent than Federov. I also remember reading that some scouts felt Iggy's upside was just as good as Ovechkin's. The Wings have to seriously start hiring chauffers for these Russian prospects. what accident did kozlov have ?i dont remember hearing bout that i use to love kozlov with detroit , he use to score big goals in the playoffs if some accident affected his career i could only imagine how much better he would of been if it didnt happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 9, 2005 I hope Gregorenko doesn't turn out to be another Slava Kozlov. Before Kozlov's accident scouts were saying he had more talent than Federov. I also remember reading that some scouts felt Iggy's upside was just as good as Ovechkin's. The Wings have to seriously start hiring chauffers for these Russian prospects. what accident did kozlov have ?i dont remember hearing bout that i use to love kozlov with detroit , he use to score big goals in the playoffs if some accident affected his career i could only imagine how much better he would of been if it didnt happen It was when he was a kid in Russia...eerily similar to Grigorenko's. Kozlov was badly hurt and although he was damn good when he came over, he was not nearly the dominant player he would have been had the accident never happened. When he was first scouted, he was dominating leagues of players in his own age group and much older, to the point where the Russians kept his name off the roster to prevent teams from trying to scout him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bliz 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2005 "Holland did say Grigorenko -- who played his first full season in Russia after suffering serious injuries in an auto accident two years ago -- will likely remain in Russia for another season." Here's the link, but that's about all that mentioned Grigorenko: http://www.detnews.com/2005/wings/0506/11/.../H07-211403.htm I think it would be better to bring him to Grand Rapids and develop him there. If things work out well, he'd always be available for a call-up. Playing with Jiri Hudler on the top line in Grand Rapids wouldn't hurt either one of them. On the other hand, if the salary cap is only $30-some million, I can see why he'd want to save the cash. I'd hate to see Grigorenko turn into a perennial 'maybe next year' player like Liv seems to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted June 11, 2005 "Holland did say Grigorenko -- who played his first full season in Russia after suffering serious injuries in an auto accident two years ago -- will likely remain in Russia for another season." Here's the link, but that's about all that mentioned Grigorenko: http://www.detnews.com/2005/wings/0506/11/.../H07-211403.htm I think it would be better to bring him to Grand Rapids and develop him there. If things work out well, he'd always be available for a call-up. Playing with Jiri Hudler on the top line in Grand Rapids wouldn't hurt either one of them. On the other hand, if the salary cap is only $30-some million, I can see why he'd want to save the cash. I'd hate to see Grigorenko turn into a perennial 'maybe next year' player like Liv seems to be. I agree, bring Grigorenko over. Give him time to adapt to the NA style, it would probably benefit both him and Grand Rapids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hatcher#2 13 Report post Posted June 11, 2005 I think he should come over aswell, what harm can it do. Does anyone know if Valtonen will be over next season, the Griffs could really use him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnes52 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2005 Grigorenko will not give up playing in Russia to play in our minor leagues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted June 22, 2005 (edited) Grigorenko will not give up playing in Russia to play in our minor leagues I think that is a mistake. What's left for him to learn in the RSL? If not ready for the NHL, he might as well get accustomed to the Northamerican play in the AHL, especially if he is looking to spend his future in Northamerica. Edited June 22, 2005 by RyanBarnes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted June 22, 2005 I think that is a mistake. What's left for him to learn in the RSL? If not ready for the NHL, he might as well get accustomed to the Northamerican play in the AHL, especially if he is looking to spend his future in Northamerica. Datsyuk and Zetterberg did just fine, and if Igor is going to be fully healthy he was considered better than either of the other two. I think he can step in right away when he crosses over. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted June 22, 2005 Datsyuk and Zetterberg did just fine, and if Igor is going to be fully healthy he was considered better than either of the other two. I think he can step in right away when he crosses over. peace That's besides the point I'm trying to make. If not for the car accident Grigorenko would probably have spent next season in Detroit. The reason he isn't, I take it, has to do with him rehabilitating. He could rehabilitate in the AHL just as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted June 22, 2005 Datsyuk and Zetterberg did just fine, and if Igor is going to be fully healthy he was considered better than either of the other two. I think he can step in right away when he crosses over. peace That's besides the point I'm trying to make. If not for the car accident Grigorenko would probably have spent next season in Detroit. The reason he isn't, I take it, has to do with him rehabilitating. He could rehabilitate in the AHL just as well. RSL pays a bit more I'd imagine. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted June 22, 2005 Datsyuk and Zetterberg did just fine, and if Igor is going to be fully healthy he was considered better than either of the other two. I think he can step in right away when he crosses over. peace That's besides the point I'm trying to make. If not for the car accident Grigorenko would probably have spent next season in Detroit. The reason he isn't, I take it, has to do with him rehabilitating. He could rehabilitate in the AHL just as well. RSL pays a bit more I'd imagine. peace Maybe. This is strictly from a hockey point of view though. He's done with the RSL already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey Master 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 I'm hopin Grigs does turn out to still hit his full potential. Because it was as good as Ovechkin...and if he pulls that out....Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Grigorenko will be kickin some butt for a GOOD long while. Add in Fischer/Kronwall, and Howard/Liv as the goalie tandem? Holy crap...lol. Great core unit for 10 years plus. wow. the wings could actually truely say that their top players were homegrown, not a bunch of good vets signed for mucho dinero. Note how many North Americans were in there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGoonSquad0208 1 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 I think that is a mistake. What's left for him to learn in the RSL? If not ready for the NHL, he might as well get accustomed to the Northamerican play in the AHL, especially if he is looking to spend his future in Northamerica. Holland said in a Detroit News article that Grigeniko will stay in Russia again for the 05/06 season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted June 26, 2005 (edited) Holland said in a Detroit News article that Grigeniko will stay in Russia again for the 05/06 season. I know, hence my rant. What's left for him to learn in Russia? Edited June 26, 2005 by RyanBarnes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 Holland said in a Detroit News article that Grigeniko will stay in Russia again for the 05/06 season. well thank you for the update do any reading lately? ....frankly im glad hes stayin over in Russia so he can chill out and hold and get his stride back their rather than here. Its a nerve wreck going into other countries and playing against or with their teams. My brother did it in Germany and said it was quite an experiance. Im sorry Barnsey but I put alot more faith in the Wings management then your hockey wits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites