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Posted 04 August 2005 - 01:42 AM
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| Hakan Andersson pulled the cloak-and-dagger routine prior to last week’s draft, postponing an interview with Swedish forward Johan Ryno until after the rest of his NHL scouting brethren had boarded flights for Ottawa. “I moved my interview with him to Wednesday when I knew they were all leaving,� said Andersson, who had to remain behind in Sweden anyway because his wife is expecting. “I didn’t want any other scouts knowing that I was interested in him.� Andersson, the director of European scouting for the Detroit Red Wings, was hiding a 6-foot-5, 195-pound winger with terrific hockey sense, hands and a two-way game. |
Both Ryno and Lofberg sound like they could be great if they pan out.
Imagine Hank centering a pair of 6'3"+ 200lb+ wingers. That'd be one hell of a Swedish line.
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 01:59 AM
Just read the article. Man listening to Hakan gush about guys I've never heard of makes me wanna become an amateur NHL scout! His enthusiasm in this article (as well as the one on Lofberg), as well the lengths he goes to make sure we get these guys, is incredible. Now if only our NA scouts had similar tricks up their sleeves to hide prospects!
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 02:03 AM
| QUOTE (Cruiser008 @ August 4, 2005 - 02:59AM) |
| Just read the article. Man listening to Hakan gush about guys I've never heard of makes me wanna become an amateur NHL scout! His enthusiasm in this article (as well as the one on Lofberg), as well the lengths he goes to make sure we get these guys, is incredible. Now if only our NA scouts had similar tricks up their sleeves to hide prospects! |
It's much harder to hide prospects in North America, the media coverage is much heavier and a lot of fans can see the kids play in person.
This is actually one reason I like the Kindl pick. He was known as hugely talented with all the tools, and then his ranking dropped because of his stats.
A Wings scout actually lives in Kitchener and saw him regularly, so we know that he wasn't just sitting there on the ice not doing anything. More than likely he was just having every unlucky break when it came to bounces or whatever.
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 02:11 AM
| QUOTE (eva unit zero @ August 4, 2005 - 03:03AM) |
| It's much harder to hide prospects in North America, the media coverage is much heavier and a lot of fans can see the kids play in person. This is actually one reason I like the Kindl pick. He was known as hugely talented with all the tools, and then his ranking dropped because of his stats. A Wings scout actually lives in Kitchener and saw him regularly, so we know that he wasn't just sitting there on the ice not doing anything. More than likely he was just having every unlucky break when it came to bounces or whatever. |
Agreed on all accounts. In fact since both Kindl and McGrath play for Kitchener and I live in the area, I'll have to go down there to watch a few Rangers game and (pretend) to scout our prospects myself when I get the chance!
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 12:33 PM
He's 6'5 but doesn't even weigh 200 pounds. If he bulks up he would fantastic. Thank god this draft was so half assed with the lockout, seems like we might have picked up some good late rounders.
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 02:41 PM
| QUOTE (ToddDaGod @ August 4, 2005 - 01:33PM) |
| seems like we might have picked up some good late rounders. |
what else is new?
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Posted 08 August 2005 - 11:39 AM
Stinks that they only have two years to get them under contract instead of four -- those not signed go right back in the draft...
Edited by fightfan24, 08 August 2005 - 11:40 AM.
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Posted 08 August 2005 - 12:17 PM
| QUOTE (fightfan24 @ August 8, 2005 - 11:39AM) |
| Stinks that they only have two years to get them under contract instead of four -- those not signed go right back in the draft... |
I don't think there is anything that prevents Holland/Ilitch from signing them yet still allowing them to play in Sweden. I think this is one avenue (along with a massive scouting fleet) where Ilitch's wallet can come in handy in a cap era. He's spending $30M/yr less on his roster. He can pony up money in other ventures.
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Posted 08 August 2005 - 03:16 PM
| QUOTE (norrisnick @ August 8, 2005 - 01:17PM) |
| I don't think there is anything that prevents Holland/Ilitch from signing them yet still allowing them to play in Sweden. |
If that's true then it would be awesome.... if we have to bring them to the AHL upon signing them then I foresee a lot of problems.
It's unfortunate that the CBA hasn't been released to the public. As far as I know no one knows the exact rule when it comes to signing prospects.
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Posted 29 August 2005 - 08:51 AM
| QUOTE (Cruiser008 @ August 8, 2005 - 04:16PM) |
| If that's true then it would be awesome.... if we have to bring them to the AHL upon signing them then I foresee a lot of problems. It's unfortunate that the CBA hasn't been released to the public. As far as I know no one knows the exact rule when it comes to signing prospects. |
As far as I can gather, the rule says that prospects have to be signed within two years of being drafted, but I have yet to hear or read anything about them having to play in the NHL or AHL upon signing.
I agree 100% with what norrisnick on this one. The new NHL rules screw teams with rich owners like ours, so whilst Ilitch can't spend his money on salaries under the salary cap, he can certainly spend it on signing most of our propects and then let them develop at a nice pace in the juniors instead of having to sign them and rush them into the AHL.
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Posted 29 August 2005 - 09:02 AM
I guess I should probably give my opinion on Ryno while I'm here.
I'm excited to see what this guy can do when he develops. He is just going to keep on getting bigger, and by the time he has filled out he is going to be huge. You would think that he will become more and more physical as he gets bigger, and I think that he, assuming that he develops his skills as well as his size, has the potential to be a very important player for us in the future.
I'm excited to see what this guy can do when he develops. He is just going to keep on getting bigger, and by the time he has filled out he is going to be huge. You would think that he will become more and more physical as he gets bigger, and I think that he, assuming that he develops his skills as well as his size, has the potential to be a very important player for us in the future.
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Posted 29 August 2005 - 12:22 PM
| QUOTE (TNBT @ August 29, 2005 - 09:51AM) | ||
As far as I can gather, the rule says that prospects have to be signed within two years of being drafted, but I have yet to hear or read anything about them having to play in the NHL or AHL upon signing. I agree 100% with what norrisnick on this one. The new NHL rules screw teams with rich owners like ours, so whilst Ilitch can't spend his money on salaries under the salary cap, he can certainly spend it on signing most of our propects and then let them develop at a nice pace in the juniors instead of having to sign them and rush them into the AHL. |
Which will make the league more like it was in the Original Six days and before, in a way.
Teams would 'sponsor' players as soon as they could find them, and they would then have the rights to them when they turned 18. That's how teams built dynasties in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s.
"I've never seen a warlock do that without his magic."
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"I once devoured a monk's soul. It tasted like chocolate."
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