Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

READY OR NOT?


  • Please log in to reply
26 replies to this topic

#1 kulling

kulling

    Draftee

  • Member
  • 2 posts

Posted 05 August 2005 - 06:55 AM

Does anybody know the scoop with Igor Grigorenko?
I only know the following:
- Got back into action with Lada Togliatti to start the season (11-0-0-0-31).
- Relegated to fourth-line duty because of influx of NHLers and requested transfer.
- Transferred to Salavat Yulaev in the city of Ufa in early November.
- Pointless in first five games with Ufa, then scored 11 goals and seven assists in final 25 contests.

Does anyone think he will be given a chance any time soon at the NHL level????


#2 hardcoretom21

hardcoretom21

    1st Line All-Star

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,982 posts
  • Location:Montreal

Posted 05 August 2005 - 07:08 AM

will probably spend season in North America minor league
Only breathing is more important than winning

"For most of a decade, the Wings were the most popular team not just because they won, but also because they won with flair, with speedy Russians and legendary leaders and the occasional willing fighter"

#3 WingMan56

WingMan56

    Kronwall owns you

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 380 posts
  • Location:Grand Rapids, MI

Posted 05 August 2005 - 02:55 PM

No, he's not coming over this year. He'll probably be brought over next season and given a chance to make the Wings roster.

#4 pavel13

pavel13

    It's still confusing

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,509 posts
  • Location:Rogers/Conway, Arkansas (home/college)

Posted 05 August 2005 - 05:54 PM

Grigorenko will be on the Wings for 06-07. If Holland is desparate to get a RW now, he might try to sign Grigorenko for this season, but that's just speculation on my part; I haven't heard anything that indicates that he will sign this season.

#5 Bliz

Bliz

    3rd Line Checker

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 407 posts

Posted 06 August 2005 - 05:17 PM

It's an intersting thought. Would Grigorenko, at 80% or 90%, a better option than, say, Ledin or a similar player with only 4th line potential? Offhand, I'd say let him stay in Russia and get up to 100%, *then* bring him over. He'll probably be a great player, but he'll have to wait another year to crack the NHL.

On the other hand, matters would be much simpler if he'd agree to play in Grand Rapids. If he excelled there, he'd be available for a call-up. At the very least, exposure to the North America style of play would be good for him.

#6 pavel13

pavel13

    It's still confusing

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,509 posts
  • Location:Rogers/Conway, Arkansas (home/college)

Posted 07 August 2005 - 07:28 AM

QUOTE (Bliz @ August 6, 2005 - 05:17PM)
It's an intersting thought. Would Grigorenko, at 80% or 90%, a better option than, say, Ledin or a similar player with only 4th line potential? Offhand, I'd say let him stay in Russia and get up to 100%, *then* bring him over. He'll probably be a great player, but he'll have to wait another year to crack the NHL.

On the other hand, matters would be much simpler if he'd agree to play in Grand Rapids. If he excelled there, he'd be available for a call-up. At the very least, exposure to the North America style of play would be good for him.

I think the reasoning behind keeping Grigorenko in Russia another year is that they want him to get back to 100% before signing him, and he's probably more likely to do that while playing with his old coach in a more familiar place than playing in Detroit or GR.

#7 p_diddy_datsyuk_13

p_diddy_datsyuk_13

    Hall-of-Famer

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 475 posts

Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:40 PM

he is finally back where he was before the accident... which means they want him to have one more year in russia.

#8 habscout

habscout

    Draftee

  • Member
  • 3 posts

Posted 11 August 2005 - 12:52 PM

I heard an interview with Ken Holland last week, on one of the sports talk shows in Detroit. He stated that Grigorenko was around 85% healthy from his accident, and that they'd like him to remain in Russia to get back to his previous level of play before bringing him over to Detroit.

#9 heals_3000

heals_3000

    Hall-of-Famer

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,666 posts
  • Location:Brampton, Ontario

Posted 11 August 2005 - 12:57 PM

FOR THE LAST TIME... NO HE WILL NOT BE HERE THIS YEAR.. NEXT YEAR
IPB Image

#10 Bliz

Bliz

    3rd Line Checker

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 407 posts

Posted 11 August 2005 - 09:22 PM

Slightly off-topic, I but I noticed that Grigs fell out of the top 50 prospects list on Hockey'sFuture.com. Not really surprising, all things considered, but hopefully he'll light it up this season in Russia.

#11 eva unit zero

eva unit zero

    Save the Princess...Save the World

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,734 posts

Posted 12 August 2005 - 07:20 AM

QUOTE (Bliz @ August 11, 2005 - 10:22PM)
Slightly off-topic, I but I noticed that Grigs fell out of the top 50 prospects list on Hockey'sFuture.com. Not really surprising, all things considered, but hopefully he'll light it up this season in Russia.

Hockeysfuture doesn't know what they are talking about half the time.

Swedish experts considered Henrik Zetterberg better than the Sedins on draft day, yet the Sedins both got 8+ ratings right away and Zetterberg got a 6.5 rating. After winning the Elitserien rookie of the year the next year, Henrik jumped to an 8.5 rating.

Makes you wonder how much they even actually look at a player, or if it's just 'what league is he is? what are his stats?'
"I've never seen a warlock do that without his magic."
"I once devoured a monk's soul. It tasted like chocolate."

#12 ToddDaGod

ToddDaGod

    1st Line All-Star

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,515 posts

Posted 13 August 2005 - 01:25 PM

QUOTE
Slightly off-topic, I but I noticed that Grigs fell out of the top 50 prospects list on Hockey'sFuture.com. Not really surprising, all things considered, but hopefully he'll light it up this season in Russia.


He's the first foward who didn't make the list, or next in line I should say. If it were the top 53 prospects, he prolly woulda been on it. Anybody know if he'll be at prospects camp?

#13 Hockey Master

Hockey Master

    4th Line Grinder

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 324 posts

Posted 13 August 2005 - 02:34 PM

It's such a damn shame that he was injured. He would have played in the NHL in 04-05, but now it's looking to be 06-07...

#14 J-Swift

J-Swift

    Clutch

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,266 posts

Posted 14 August 2005 - 04:34 PM

Is Grigorenko actually expected to return to the same level of play that he had before the accident?

#15 Henkka

Henkka

    Finnish Wing

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,015 posts

Posted 14 August 2005 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (J-Swift @ August 15, 2005 - 12:34AM)
Is Grigorenko actually expected to return to the same level of play that he had before the accident?

I think no, nobody could do that. He just lost a year to develop. But I still think he could be NHL 2nd line regular. He would have been the 1st line star but the destiny didn't agree with him. sad.gif

Let's just hope the best.

Edited by Henkka, 14 August 2005 - 05:02 PM.

user posted imageuser posted image

#16 TNBT

TNBT

    1st Line All-Star

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,329 posts

Posted 29 August 2005 - 01:40 AM

I don't know what else I can add to this thread other than to say that I too believe that we will see Grigorenko spend this season in Russia to (hopefully) allow him to return to 100% before bringing him over next season. Where he will play next season (Detroit or Grand Rapids) will depend on who we still have on the team from the current roster and any new additions that we make, but I am pretty confident that Grigorenko will be in either one of our North American teams next season.

#17 Aeothe Kaear

Aeothe Kaear

    puttin' on the foil

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,622 posts
  • Location:Seattle

Posted 29 August 2005 - 02:54 AM

QUOTE (Hockey Master @ August 13, 2005 - 02:34PM)
He would have played in the NHL in 04-05

Not likely dry.gif
"I can't believe I shook that guy's friggin' hand. That pisses me right off." -- Dino Ciccarelli

#18 zetterbergfan40

zetterbergfan40

    4th Line Grinder

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 250 posts
  • Location:Michigan

Posted 29 August 2005 - 01:32 PM

he will become a 30 goal player in 2 years after a year i GR even know he got hurt i think he could become a first line forward! laugh.gif

#19 Leadzedder

Leadzedder

    Rookie

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 190 posts

Posted 30 August 2005 - 01:45 AM

I'd guess and say he's pretty much a lock for the roster next year. Another year in Russia would be best and the lack of IIHF transfer agreement is why he isn't over here now. I would have liked to seen Hudler, Fillpulla and Grigorenko on a line in Grand Rapids this year.

Two other points of interest are 1. Grigs got 7 points in 8 preseason games last time I noticed. and 2. I think the fact that Hudler is under contract for 633k will hurt his chances of being called up as others can come up at 450k.

#20 TNBT

TNBT

    1st Line All-Star

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,329 posts

Posted 31 August 2005 - 06:39 AM

QUOTE (Leadzedder @ August 30, 2005 - 02:45AM)
I'd guess and say he's pretty much a lock for the roster next year. Another year in Russia would be best and the lack of IIHF transfer agreement is why he isn't over here now. I would have liked to seen Hudler, Fillpulla and Grigorenko on a line in Grand Rapids this year.

Two other points of interest are 1. Grigs got 7 points in 8 preseason games last time I noticed. and 2. I think the fact that Hudler is under contract for 633k will hurt his chances of being called up as others can come up at 450k.

We have guys who can be called up for $450,000 (such as Rivers, Delmore, etc.), but I think that the effect this will have on Hudler will be minimal.

It may effect his chances of being called up this season, but over the next season or two we will be seeing a bunch of our current core guys retire or come close to it, and this will create opportunities for our young guys. Hudler is still only very young, and I believe that in the long run he will get his chance to play at the NHL level, even if it doesn't come this season.

With retirements will come some room to move under the salary cap, and it is then that we will be looking to re-build the team and Hudler should be a big part of that re-building process.





Similar Topics Collapse

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users