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#1 norrisnick

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 04:08 AM

Stumbled across some of these numbers in an article and honestly couldn't believe them so I had to double check. One goalie is considered elite and the other not so much.

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#2 Heroes of Hockeytown

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 05:12 AM

Hahahahahaha, I guessed who the two goalies were before I even voted; didn't even need to look up the stats--though I did later to confirm it. Predictable, considering the banter around here lately.
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#3 eva unit zero

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 06:56 AM

QUOTE (Heroes of Hockeytown @ August 6, 2005 - 06:12AM)
Hahahahahaha, I guessed who the two goalies were before I even voted; didn't even need to look up the stats--though I did later to confirm it. Predictable, considering the banter around here lately.

Yeah I knew pretty much right off the bat as well. Nice one nn thumbup.gif

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Goalie A's save percentage a couple more decimal points ouy is .91022, Goalie B's is .91018.

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#4 norrisnick

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 12:16 PM

QUOTE (eva unit zero @ August 6, 2005 - 06:56AM)
Yeah I knew pretty much right off the bat as well. Nice one nn thumbup.gif

Don't forget...
Goalie A's save percentage a couple more decimal points ouy is .91022, Goalie B's is .91018.

Yeah, like I said I couldn't really believe it when I saw it. Craziness.

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 12:48 PM

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#6 RyanBarnes!

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 01:43 PM

Let's try the playoffs, shall we?

Goalie A 5 1 4 0 109 12 2.51 97 .890 0

Goalie B 23 16 7 0 598 40 1.71 558 .933 5






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#7 norrisnick

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 6, 2005 - 01:43PM)
Let's try the playoffs, shall we?

Goalie A 5 1 4 0 109 12 2.51 97 .890 0

Goalie B 23 16 7 0 598 40 1.71 558 .933 5

I don't know if you watched any of the games but the 18 skaters did everything in their power to lose that series. Brutal is the only way to describe it and I've used that term often with regards to the 1st round vs the Sharks.

But then again it begs the question, you don't think Osgood could have done a bit better for himself playing behind Tampa's team? The Bolts elevated their play for the playoffs and the Blues dropped off precipitously and it wasn't Osgood's doing.

And yes the cat is now out of the bag. wink.gif

Goalie A is Chris Osgood playing behind St. Louis.
Goalie B is Nikolai Khabibulin playing behind Tampa Bay.

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#8 norrisnick

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 01:55 PM

And just to stave off any assertions of my insanity, I'm not claiming Osgood is Khabibulin's equal or better. I just saw the numbers for Nikolai and couldn't believe how low they were with regards to his aura.

Would he still have commanded $6-7M/yr had the Bolts flamed out of the playoffs? Or even lost in the Finals?

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE (norrisnick @ August 6, 2005 - 02:50PM)
QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 6, 2005 - 01:43PM)
Let's try the playoffs, shall we?

Goalie A 5 1 4 0 109 12 2.51 97 .890 0

Goalie B 23 16 7 0 598 40 1.71 558 .933 5

I don't know if you watched any of the games but the 18 skaters did everything in their power to lose that series. Brutal is the only way to describe it and I've used that term often with regards to the 1st round vs the Sharks.

But then again it begs the question, you don't think Osgood could have done a bit better for himself playing behind Tampa's team? The Bolts elevated their play for the playoffs and the Blues dropped off precipitously and it wasn't Osgood's doing.

And yes the cat is now out of the bag. wink.gif

Goalie A is Chris Osgood playing behind St. Louis.
Goalie B is Nikolai Khabibulin playing behind Tampa Bay.

peace

Sorry if I ruined the fun. It was a nice setup. I'm pretty sure Osgood would have done better for himself on Tampa Bay, but I'm also pretty sure that Tampa Bay wouldn't have won a Stanley Cup with Osgood in the net. Sure there's no way I can prove this, but call it an educated guess. This only proves that the regular season is not the time to evaluate a goalie. What makes a goalie elite is his ability to perform when the stakes are high and the pressure is ON! I don't think Osgood has got what it takes anymore, despite him having won before.
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#10 Hockey Master

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 02:41 PM

And I picked B. Khabibulin is better than Osgood. I'm not surprised.





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