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before  you start hacking someone's  opinion make sure your own holds water....toughness has nothing to do with hooking or holding anyone, it's laying on a heavy hit and being able to drop the gloves when needed.

a physical presence on the ice is what the wings need.....btw, i don't remember McCarty, Kocur, Domi, etc.... being a bunch of hacks that can't skate...

settle down there tough guy..

McCarty would be the first to admit he cant skate a lick.. read his book.. Kocur? come on.. if your going to argue my point use some hard hitters that CAN skate (LaPointe, Avery, Brashear)

I never said this was a HUGE signing.. all I AM saying is that you need to be careful when you are looking for hitters and physical players now.. the NHL is doing everything they can to de-value the one dimensional player (which, IMO is how it should be.. weed out the 'hangers on')

You still need guys to clear the crease, still need guys to make sure your goalie doesn't get run over. Yes, you don't need a team of tough guys, but you also can't have a team of soft players, and that's what we have. We're softer than the last time we played. You know the result. I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't sign Woolley if you are looking for more finesse, from everything Holland has said, he wanted more size and toughness. This is not the signing to go about this.

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Be VERY careful of the source. Eklund has to say a lot of things to get subscribers. This could be a very solid signing if it is true and the right price.

This year, the right price is really all that matters.

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Scouting Report

Assets Has an above-average array of skills on offense. Owns one of the hardest shots in the NHL. Is more than capable of running a power play.

Flaws His defensive game has not caught up to his offensive ability. Cannot be trusted with big minutes at the NHL level.

Career potential Power-play specialist.

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Eklund still appears to be the only one reporting this, so perhaps it isn't true?

Even if it is true though, it isn't the worst thing in the world. I would have ratherd get Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall re-signed before I go signing guys like Delmore, but if the deal does happen, and it is "cheap" as Eklund reports, then hopedully it wont effect our chances at re-signing the other 3.

At the end of the day though, if this signing goes through, then we haven't addressed our need for size, but we have added some good depth to the blue-line and we could always throw Delmore onto the wing to take advantage of his offensive skills.

Not the worst move in the world, but not the smartest either.

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have always thought that Delmore is a great player!!!!

Good move Kenny!!! (finally tongue.gif)

uh oh............... its eklund..........

Edited by redwings1914

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Per TSN

Assets  Has an above-average array of skills on offense. Owns one of the hardest shots in the NHL. Is more than capable of running a power play. Flaws  His defensive game has not caught up to his offensive ability. Cannot be trusted with big minutes at the NHL level. Career potential  Power-play specialist.

If true, this is a good signing I think. He will be good for our previously awful playoff powerplay.

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before  you start hacking someone's  opinion make sure your own holds water....toughness has nothing to do with hooking or holding anyone, it's laying on a heavy hit and being able to drop the gloves when needed.

a physical presence on the ice is what the wings need.....btw, i don't remember McCarty, Kocur, Domi, etc.... being a bunch of hacks that can't skate...

settle down there tough guy..

McCarty would be the first to admit he cant skate a lick.. read his book.. Kocur? come on.. if your going to argue my point use some hard hitters that CAN skate (LaPointe, Avery, Brashear)

I never said this was a HUGE signing.. all I AM saying is that you need to be careful when you are looking for hitters and physical players now.. the NHL is doing everything they can to de-value the one dimensional player (which, IMO is how it should be.. weed out the 'hangers on')

i agree with you there, we don't need a bruiser that does just that, we don't need another liability, but we do need someone that can hit and contribute offensively or defensively at the same time....

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Eklund still appears to be the only one reporting this, so perhaps it isn't true?

Even if it is true though, it isn't the worst thing in the world. I would have ratherd get Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall re-signed before I go signing guys like Delmore, but if the deal does happen, and it is "cheap" as Eklund reports, then hopedully it wont effect our chances at re-signing the other 3.

At the end of the day though, if this signing goes through, then we haven't addressed our need for size, but we have added some good depth to the blue-line and we could always throw Delmore onto the wing to take advantage of his offensive skills.

Not the worst move in the world, but not the smartest either.

We don't have the luxury of signing every player we want to. That is why we now have a salary cap. We need to get the best players that price will allow. The most important thing to do is re-sign our players. Dats for $3M hopefully, Hank for $2, and Kronwall for $850,000. We have to leave that and about another $1M for a little breathing room under the cap. That all means we can't go crazy signing people and have to be smart about it. We take who we can that fits under the cap.

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have always thought that Delmore is a great player!!!!

Good move Kenny!!! (finally tongue.gif)

uh oh............... its eklund..........

When did you think that? When he washed out in Nashville? How does this make up for the loss of Hatcher? This signing, if true is a joke. He's an AHL player that on his best day can get 5-6 minutes at the NHL level. Don't we have enough puck moving defensemen? Who's going to make opposing forwards pay the pricein the defensive zone? Who's going to keep opposing forwards honest.

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Eklund still appears to be the only one reporting this, so perhaps it isn't true?

Even if it is true though, it isn't the worst thing in the world.  I would have ratherd get Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall re-signed before I go signing guys like Delmore, but if the deal does happen, and it is "cheap" as Eklund reports, then hopedully it wont effect our chances at re-signing the other 3.

At the end of the day though, if this signing goes through, then we haven't addressed our need for size, but we have added some good depth to the blue-line and we could always throw Delmore onto the wing to take advantage of his offensive skills.

Not the worst move in the world, but not the smartest either.

We don't have the luxury of signing every player we want to. That is why we now have a salary cap. We need to get the best players that price will allow. The most important thing to do is re-sign our players. Dats for $3M hopefully, Hank for $2, and Kronwall for $850,000. We have to leave that and about another $1M for a little breathing room under the cap. That all means we can't go crazy signing people and have to be smart about it. We take who we can that fits under the cap.

Best players for what we NEED:

Brad Brown

Todd Simpson

Not another soft, puck moving d-man mad.gif

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TSN says he has one of the hardest shots in the league. He's needs to work on his defensive game, but overall this is not a bad pickup if it's true.

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If true, this is a good signing I think. He will be good for our previously awful playoff powerplay.

I seriously doubt he'll do any better than Lidstrom or Schnieder. Personally I would rather see Kronwall and Lidstrom or Fischer and Schnieder. But you never know, he could prove helpful. Is there any chance this (if true) could be a GR signing to make up for Kronwall coming up to the big club?

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Eklund still appears to be the only one reporting this, so perhaps it isn't true?

Even if it is true though, it isn't the worst thing in the world.  I would have ratherd get Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall re-signed before I go signing guys like Delmore, but if the deal does happen, and it is "cheap" as Eklund reports, then hopedully it wont effect our chances at re-signing the other 3.

At the end of the day though, if this signing goes through, then we haven't addressed our need for size, but we have added some good depth to the blue-line and we could always throw Delmore onto the wing to take advantage of his offensive skills.

Not the worst move in the world, but not the smartest either.

We don't have the luxury of signing every player we want to. That is why we now have a salary cap. We need to get the best players that price will allow. The most important thing to do is re-sign our players. Dats for $3M hopefully, Hank for $2, and Kronwall for $850,000. We have to leave that and about another $1M for a little breathing room under the cap. That all means we can't go crazy signing people and have to be smart about it. We take who we can that fits under the cap.

Best players for what we NEED:

Brad Brown

Todd Simpson

Not another soft, puck moving d-man mad.gif

Brad Brown http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/player_bio.asp...id=175&hubName=

Assets Plays an intimidating game from the back end, and can also drop the gloves at will. Has excellent leadership qualities.

Flaws Lacks foot speed and has trouble going up against shifty forwards in the NHL. Has not developed his defensive game as well as expected.

Career potential No. 6 or 7 defenseman.

Total NHL 330 2 27 29 -16 747 108 1.85

Sounds like a winner

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Brad Brown http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/player_bio.asp...id=175&hubName=

Assets Plays an intimidating game from the back end, and can also drop the gloves at will. Has excellent leadership qualities.

Flaws Lacks foot speed and has trouble going up against shifty forwards in the NHL. Has not developed his defensive game as well as expected.

Career potential No. 6 or 7 defenseman.

Total NHL 330 2 27 29 -16 747 108 1.85

Sounds like a winner

Perfect player for our needs. You don't want to pay 3 million for a star to sit in the penalty box for 5-7 minutes a night.

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Eklund still appears to be the only one reporting this, so perhaps it isn't true?

Even if it is true though, it isn't the worst thing in the world.  I would have ratherd get Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall re-signed before I go signing guys like Delmore, but if the deal does happen, and it is "cheap" as Eklund reports, then hopedully it wont effect our chances at re-signing the other 3.

At the end of the day though, if this signing goes through, then we haven't addressed our need for size, but we have added some good depth to the blue-line and we could always throw Delmore onto the wing to take advantage of his offensive skills.

Not the worst move in the world, but not the smartest either.

We don't have the luxury of signing every player we want to. That is why we now have a salary cap. We need to get the best players that price will allow. The most important thing to do is re-sign our players. Dats for $3M hopefully, Hank for $2, and Kronwall for $850,000. We have to leave that and about another $1M for a little breathing room under the cap. That all means we can't go crazy signing people and have to be smart about it. We take who we can that fits under the cap.

Best players for what we NEED:

Brad Brown

Todd Simpson

Not another soft, puck moving d-man mad.gif

See there's to sides two every story right.

Brad Brown? Why would a small skilled team like Minnesota trade him for a 4th rounder. Especially if he was their captain.

Todd Simpson? Why would Ottawa let him go. This team needs toughness as much as the Red Wings.

While I'm not supportive of the rumored signing of Delmore, you have to remember that their are factors involved here that remain unknown to us.

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Brad Brown http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/player_bio.asp...id=175&hubName=

Assets Plays an intimidating game from the back end, and can also drop the gloves at will. Has excellent leadership qualities.

Flaws Lacks foot speed and has trouble going up against shifty forwards in the NHL. Has not developed his defensive game as well as expected.

Career potential No. 6 or 7 defenseman.

Total NHL 330 2 27 29 -16 747 108 1.85

Sounds like a winner

Perfect player for our needs. You don't want to pay 3 million for a star to sit in the penalty box for 5-7 minutes a night.

A bad player who can't play D is not a good player for us. Even if the league cuts 25% of the holding and obstructing out of the game, he becomes worthless because he can't handle someone who skates.

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A bad player who can't play D is not a good player for us. Even if the league cuts 25% of the holding and obstructing out of the game, he becomes worthless because he can't handle someone who skates.

Whats so hard to understand here? We don't need him to skate and play terrific defense. Thats why we have Lidstrom, Schneider, Kronwall, Fischer, and to a lesser extent Chelios. We need him to fight. He'll maybe get 5 minutes of ice time on a good night. His job isn't to handle some who skates.

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Whats so hard to understand here? We don't need him to skate and play terrific defense. Thats why we have Lidstrom, Schneider, Kronwall, Fischer, and to a lesser extent Chelios. We need him to fight. He'll maybe get 5 minutes of ice time on a good night. His job isn't to handle some who skates.

So we are willing to just give up great scoring oppertunities when he is on the ice? There isn't going to be the ammount of fighting in the NHL as there has been in previous years. We need good players, not someone who just takes up space and SUCKS.

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Whats so hard to understand here? We don't need him to skate and play terrific defense. Thats why we have Lidstrom, Schneider, Kronwall, Fischer, and to a lesser extent Chelios. We need him to fight. He'll maybe get 5 minutes of ice time on a good night. His job isn't to handle some who skates.

Not playing terriffic defense seems to be right up his alley. Not playing any defense is what we will get!

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Let's not get carried away, has this been confirmed by a reliable source?

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So we are willing to just give up great scoring oppertunities when he is on the ice? There isn't going to be the ammount of fighting in the NHL as there has been in previous years. We need good players, not someone who just takes up space and SUCKS.

I'm pretty sure he won't be out against the top lines. Do you know how this game even works? How do you know there isn't going to be as much fighting? Do you have a time machine? Just because it's a possibility doesn't mean s**t. Brad Brown is going to protect. He is good at protecting. When Yzerman gets hit with a cheapshot, who's gonna stand up for him? Our top line winger Shanahan? Ha. Wake up. Just because he's not a 5'6 120lbs fairy doesn't mean he's not effective at what he does.

Not playing terriffic defense seems to be right up his alley. Not playing any defense is what we will get!

Duh. How many times do you want me to repeat it? WE DON'T NEED HIM FOR DEFENSE. WE DON't NEED HIM FOR DEFENSE. Let me know how many times you want me to repeat this.

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