hoogs 8 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) Not good news: http://www.freep.com/sports/redwings/wings...6e_20050816.htm "Datsyuk and Zetterberg are considered part of the team's young nucleus. "I've talked to agents for both players recently," Holland said. "We're not close to a deal." The Wings' payroll is at nearly $29 million, leaving them with about $9 million in cap space. (Holland has said he would like $1 million in wiggle room.) More than half of that will go toward signing Datsyuk, likely for around $3.5 million, and Zetterberg, who is seeking $2.5 million annually." Edited August 16, 2005 by hoogs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStormRising 7 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 We will get them signed sooner or later... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 We will get them signed sooner or later... I wouldn't put all your marbles in one bag. Datsyuk wants Lang money and he hasn't done much to deserve that yet. I wouldn't be surprsied to see him walk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nik19 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) http://www.hockeyweb.de/index.php?action=ART&aNr=15177 According to this article we already signed the german Michael Hackert. The article says "Forward Michael Hackert leaves his Frankfurt Lions and joins a NHL Team. Hackert who is 24 years old signes a one year Two Way Contract with the Detroit Red Wings. "Delight and sorrow are not far appart", said Lions GM Charly Fliegauf. "For Michael its a huge chance. On the other side its a bad time for a deal for us. Its difficult now, to find players on the Free Agent Market, who are able to replace one of the best german players. Michael Hackert played since 2003 for Frankfurt and was member of the Team who won the german Cup in 2004. In the past season, the center had the best season stats of his career, collecting 20 goals and 18 Assists. Though in february, he suffered a broken shin and splinter bone and is still recovering from" Here his stats http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdispla....php3?pid=53551 Edited August 16, 2005 by Nik19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkyBlueFish203 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Why isn't Howard in the group? Geez. Can't we just sign this kid already? One more year in college wouldn't hurt but going pro and playing in the AHL would also help his development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 So does that mean Michael Hackert will be playing for the Wings next season? Most likely on the 4th line. His stats suggest that he's continously improving, and considering he's only 24 it appears to be a reasonable, cheap signing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 So does that mean Michael Hackert will be playing for the Wings next season? Most likely on the 4th line. His stats suggest that he's continously improving, and considering he's only 24 it appears to be a reasonable, cheap signing. Hardly. Grand Rapids material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beerandwings 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 If I were Howard, I would stay in college. He must be the king there, and he is good enough to make us wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutherpucker27 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 No reason for Howard to leave early. He's the best goalie in the NCAA. And he probably wants to finish up his degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Hardly. Grand Rapids material. That's what I originally thought, but why would he leave his home country to play for Grand Rapids? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fightfan24 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 I wouldn't put all your marbles in one bag. Datsyuk wants Lang money and he hasn't done much to deserve that yet. I wouldn't be surprsied to see him walk. Walk where? He can play two years in Russia before UFA hits but you have to be seen to be in demand -- he'd be smart to sign here and stay the next two seasons. Then he can leave the desirable hockeytown... The best way to get out of Detroit is to sign a contract and ask to be traded -- holding out helps nobody. Looks like he's pulling a Primeau... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 I was sure that Datsuk's agent said that he was either going to play in Russia or for the Wings. I thought these were his only options, surely he wont play for another NHL team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 That's what I originally thought, but why would he leave his home country to play for Grand Rapids? Because he hopes it might give him a shot at the NHL some day. Very few native players go from the DEL straight to the NHL. A top prospect might, but this guy isn't even drafted from what I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Because he hopes it might give him a shot at the NHL some day. Very few native players go from the DEL straight to the NHL. A top prospect might, but this guy isn't even drafted from what I know. Thanks for clearing that up. I hope he eventually gets a shot in the NHL, because he is still reasonably young and his stats suggest that he's developing well and turning into quite a handy goal scorer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Thanks for clearing that up. I hope he eventually gets a shot in the NHL, because he is still reasonably young and his stats suggest that he's developing well and turning into quite a handy goal scorer. Maybe, but coming from the DEL and joining the NHL is a huge leap. The AHL is a step up for this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henkka 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) Maybe, but coming from the DEL and joining the NHL is a huge leap. How about Thornton playing in the Swiss league? Could he join the NHL anymore? Edited August 16, 2005 by Henkka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 How about Thornton playing in the Swiss league? Could he join the NHL anymore? Is that supposed to be funny? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
czechomania 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 So does that mean Michael Hackert will be playing for the Wings next season? Most likely on the 4th line. His stats suggest that he's continously improving, and considering he's only 24 it appears to be a reasonable, cheap signing. Hallo from Frankfurt, Michael is not a 4th line Player. His potenial is to play in a scoring line. Detroit have enough Checking Line Players. Michael ist a Scorer. Give him time, and he can a star in Detroit. At the moment he´s injured, with a broken cnemial. (hope this is correkt). Thats Hackert And thats the way to score goals ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
czechomania 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Maybe, but coming from the DEL and joining the NHL is a huge leap. The AHL is a step up for this guy. Sometimes thats right, but also for some AHL Guys with good scoring is it also a step up to playing in the DEL. It´s a different Hockey, small rings - big rings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fightfan24 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Can he skate well? That will tell us how far he can advance over here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nik19 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 In my opinion Hackert is just one guy like Rivers, Manlow, Helmer etc. who is signed to add depth to the griffins line up and who might get some few chances to play for the wings if there are injuries. He might have some potential, but dont expect him to be on the wings roster directly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERSTUD 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Is that supposed to be funny? It's pathetic more than it is stupid or funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 Hallo from Frankfurt, Michael is not a 4th line Player. His potenial is to play in a scoring line. Detroit have enough Checking Line Players. Michael ist a Scorer. Give him time, and he can a star in Detroit. At the moment he´s injured, with a broken cnemial. (hope this is correkt). Thats Hackert And thats the way to score goals ... Franzen is no less of a scorer than this guy, and he'll be a checking forward in the NHL. This guy will have to prove himself in the AHL first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 Sometimes thats right, but also for some AHL Guys with good scoring is it also a step up to playing in the DEL. It´s a different Hockey, small rings - big rings. Yeah, skating is more important on large ice surfaces. I take it that this guy is a pretty good skater, otherwise he wouldn't have made a name for himself in the DEL and certainly not been noticed by the Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites