Just asking because I think we're starting to see some true colors.
I won't even vote for now.
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 06:50 PM
Tie between Devellano and Ilitch's wallet.
Edited by aarond, 23 August 2005 - 06:51 PM.
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 06:52 PM
Its a mix of both
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 07:58 PM
Ken Holland, maybe, maybe not. Scouting staff and Illitch's wallet, a definite yes.
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 08:09 PM
Devellano and Holland have been great, but Illitch has kept it coming.
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 09:40 PM
| QUOTE (CelticWing34 @ August 23, 2005 - 08:58PM) |
| Ken Holland, maybe, maybe not. Scouting staff and Illitch's wallet, a definite yes. |
What he said. I think Holland has made some really good staffing decisions, and I think he's really dropped the ball. I vote more for Mr. Ilitch, first and foremost, and then our rockin' scouting staff. (Go, Scotty!)
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:01 PM
Holland and his scouting staff (note: Holland has been part of/the king of the scouting staff for a while) as well as Ilitch's money being able to KEEP the players that the Wings have picked up, and those players the Wings have acquired in the draft and via trade or free agency have been very loyal to the team and willing to stay for the most part (see Yzerman, Larionov, Osgood, etc.)
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:17 PM
I'd vote for Devellano and the scouting staff.
And certainly Illitch's deep pockets help.
Not so much Holland.
And certainly Illitch's deep pockets help.
Not so much Holland.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 12:10 AM
Definately, it's no one factor. You've gotta hand it to Ilitch for absolutely giving his all to ice a competitive team, he loves to win. Jimmy Devellano and the scouting staff deserves a ton of thanks for helping draft/aquire some of the best in the league.
I'd say the jury is still out on Ken Holland. He might've been good as a scout. But GM? We'll see.
I'd say the jury is still out on Ken Holland. He might've been good as a scout. But GM? We'll see.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 01:46 AM
I vote "Other".
When I asw the title of this thread I thought, "Wow that's not even a debate." I was very surprised when the only possible answer was missing.
The person more resonsible than any other for the Wings success in the last ten years is :
Steve Yzerman.
When I asw the title of this thread I thought, "Wow that's not even a debate." I was very surprised when the only possible answer was missing.
The person more resonsible than any other for the Wings success in the last ten years is :
Steve Yzerman.
Edited by Yzerman#19, 24 August 2005 - 01:47 AM.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 03:14 AM
| QUOTE (Yzerman#19 @ August 24, 2005 - 02:46AM) |
| I vote "Other". When I asw the title of this thread I thought, "Wow that's not even a debate." I was very surprised when the only possible answer was missing. The person more resonsible than any other for the Wings success in the last ten years is : Steve Yzerman. |
My bad............Of course Stevie should have been a choice.
I guess I was just being angry is all. I just see Ken Holland in a different light without the big wallet in his back pocket is all.
(Anyone, and I do mean anyone, can make a business work with unlimited resources......make a mistake? Spend it away! POOF)
My bad.........
We can just put your vote in a write-in for Stevie.
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Ya gotta admit though ----- there are some close results up there on this poll......
Edited by DaKineMaui, 24 August 2005 - 03:16 AM.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:02 AM
No brainer here....Scotty Bowman
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:27 AM
| QUOTE (Vladinator @ August 24, 2005 - 11:02AM) |
| No brainer here....Scotty Bowman |
Pretty much. It certainly wasn't Kenny Holland the GM.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 11:02 AM
| QUOTE (Vladinator @ August 24, 2005 - 10:02AM) |
| No brainer here....Scotty Bowman |
Ditto, surprise he wasn't on the poll!
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 12:25 PM
Jimmy D., Brian Murray and Bowman -- I give Holland some credit for 01/02 but little before.
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Posted 25 August 2005 - 09:53 PM
Both.
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Posted 26 August 2005 - 03:08 AM
| QUOTE (Vladinator @ August 24, 2005 - 11:02AM) |
| No brainer here....Scotty Bowman |
Excellent point Vladinator! Scotty soooo much more than Holland or Dellevano!
I split my vote between Stevie & Scotty.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 07:20 PM
close between scouting and wallet
but even with good scouts, you need the money to keep the players, so the wallet wins
but even with good scouts, you need the money to keep the players, so the wallet wins
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Posted 28 August 2005 - 07:00 PM
Moneymoneymoneymoney.... MONEY!
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Posted 30 August 2005 - 03:52 AM
| QUOTE (ManiacStan @ August 28, 2005 - 08:00PM) |
| Moneymoneymoneymoney.... MONEY! |
Funny the NYRangers spent just as much money in the last 10 years as we have why haven't they had the same success?
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