Smyth and 1st for Datyuk

[redwings1914 18]

How old is smyth????

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

29

[Barnes52 0]

Maybe there is something here http://edmsun.canoe.ca/Sports/Hockey/2005/...190516-sun.html

Edmonton is shopping for a #1 center.....hmmmm

Edited August 27, 2005 by Barnes52

[RyanBarnes! 293]

Maybe there is something here http://edmsun.canoe.ca/Sports/Hockey/2005/...190516-sun.html

Edmonton is shopping for a #1 center.....hmmmm

Yeah okay, I'll take Torres, Winchester and future considerations for Datsyuk.

Edited August 27, 2005 by RyanBarnes!

[ToddDaGod 0]

Maybe there is something here http://edmsun.canoe.ca/Sports/Hockey/2005/...190516-sun.html

Edmonton is shopping for a #1 center.....hmmmm

Agreed. This is actually a rumor that isn't pulled outta someone's ass. And a First rounder? DO IT.

[theman19 47]

we draft extremly well and have for years off bottom first round picks, could you imagine what we'd do with two? pull the trigger kenny, daddy needs a new pair of cup shoes.

[Barrie 900]

How much coin is Smyth looking for? Smyth plays the Wing, which will allow Zetterberg to move to Center.

[eva unit zero 271]

How about Datsyuk for Smyth, Torres, and a 1st?

[norrisnick 1]

How about Datsyuk for Smyth, Torres, and a 1st?

Are you crazy? Getting two of those out of Edmonton for Datsyuk is pushing it already, but three?

I'd take Torres and whatever else it would take to round out the deal (I don't think a 1st and/or Smyth would be that whatever else).

peace

[TheNewGreatOne87 0]

id do it just so we dont have to hear anymore pavel datsyuk rumors

Edited August 28, 2005 by TheNewGreatOne87

[Lefkowitz 0]

i'd say do it! i like Datsyuk but if we can't reach a deal with him then trade him for Smyth. i like Smyth's grit over Datsyuk's also,which is what i think the team needs.

so Datsyuk for Smyth AND a 1st rounder seems like it would be a no-brainer. i unfortunately don't think this will happen. we'll see

[eva unit zero 271]

Edmonton loves small fast players like Datsyuk, and Dats would be PERFECT with Dvorak and the other guys they have.

If we have to trade Datsyuk, this is a deal I definitely would not mind, because Smyth is asking for 3m, which is about what he's worth. Looking at the Wings' cap number and Shanahan's contract, he'd probably take 2.5-2.75 so the team could keep Zetterberg as well. Especially since it would give him a MUCH better shot at a Cup.

All that said...I don't see the deal happening.

Imagine if you would though....

Smyth/Zetterberg/Shanahan

Holmstrom/Lang/Yzerman

Maltby/Draper/Manlow

MacLean/Franzen/Mowers

Fischer/Lidstrom

Schneider/Kronwall

Lilja/Chelios

That's a pretty strong lineup. Especially with a versatile, all-around guy like Rivers to plug any hole in the roster when you want to rest someone.

Why do you have Maclean and Manlow? They're GR bound...I'm not even sure that Manlow is signed

I am not sure Williams playing fourth line minutes would be the best option. MacLean is a solid defensive forward and would be a decent addition to the fourth line. Manlow has a good amount of NHL experience, better offensive tools than bootland, and good size and strength. Manlow gets this year (or even just the first month) to prove he can play in Detroit..otherwise he's just taking up space in Grand Rapids. The guy is 30, he better be ready now.

I would like to see Booter and Williams in Grand Rapids this year, they would get a lot more ice than they would in Detroit. One year, and they are in next season with a much better chance of success.

Replace MacLean with Mcdonnell if you like, he's grittier and still a decent defensive player.

Or, if the cap allows, take your pick of #13 forward and use Rivers full-time up front, bring Delmore onto the roster.

[eva unit zero 271]

Are you crazy?  Getting two of those out of Edmonton for Datsyuk is pushing it already, but three?

I'd take Torres and whatever else it would take to round out the deal (I don't think a 1st and/or Smyth would be that whatever else).

peace

lol...I figured while we were speculating...

Heck, Smyth and Torres with no first would be sweet enough.

How about:

Datsyuk and Legace for Torres, Markkanen, and a mid-round pick?

We lose Datsyuk, swap goalies, gain Torres and add 513k to the payroll (up to 32.513 with a 22-man roster)

We'd then have two very good goaltenders for less than two million, as well as 5.937 million to spend on Zetterberg and an additional player.

Edited August 29, 2005 by eva unit zero

[zetterbergfan40 0]

Not a bad idea but torres isnt half as good as dats but it saves money maybe dats and lagace for torres markkanen and a first. I would definitly take that!

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

I don't know if the Oil would swap Markkanen for a more expensive Legace and Torres for a more expensive Datsyuk. Don't they have some sort of self-imposed cap of $30-32M or so? There must be a reason why Smyth hasn't signed yet (unless he's looking for a short-term, Datsyuk-esque contract so he can bolt for free agency).

[norrisnick 1]

Not a bad idea but torres isnt half as good as dats but it saves money maybe dats and lagace for torres markkanen and a first. I would definitly take that!

He might not be half as good as Datsyuk but he's likely just as valuable if not moreso. A physical winger that potted 20 goals in Edmonton his first full time season in the NHL. He could be what Morrow is in Dallas and that would be great to have.

Plus this wouldn't be a straight up deal. Something else has to come along with Torres, but nothing as obscene as a 1st rounder or Smyth. Unless Lowe suddenly contracted Satheritis.

peace

[beerandwings 0]

I dont believe this either,

however, I would think about Dats for Smythe straight up, throw a first in there and I would be psyched! Not torres, too iffy still. Would love to see Smythe with Draper and maltby.

[edicius 3,269]

I'd do it.

My only worry at this point would be that since Zetts is still unsigned, a trade involving Datsyuk could influence his (Zetts) decision to sign as well. I'm getting a bad feeling that when it comes to Dats and Zetts, it's either both or neither for this upcoming season.

[Terrible Ted 0]

I would like for this to happen but doubt very much that it will.

[Trainwatcher 0]

anybody that can translate this article on Hank and Pavel? the online translators are crap...

Henrik Zetterberg och ryssen Pavel Datsyuk är de enda stjärnorna i Detroit som står utan kontrakt. Nu är frågan om Detroit har råd med båda - och vem som i så fall blir över.

- Händer ingenting får jag väl spela i Timrå, säger Zäta.

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Zetterberg och kompisen Datsyuk slåss om de sista lönemiljonerna i Detroit: "Jag hoppas det ska lösa sig"

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�Z�:s möjligheter denna säsong

Acceptera Detroits lagda bud, eller hoppas på att de höjer budet.

Bli bortbytt mot en eller flera spelare i en annan klubb i NHL.

Hoppas att någon annan NHL-klubb lägger ett bud - som Detroit i så fall har rätt att matcha. (Ingen annan klubb har hört av sig ännu.)

Fortsätta i Timrå i vinter.

Svenska löneligan

Detroits stjärnback Nicklas Lidström har den största årslönen av de svenska NHL-spelarna.

1) Nicklas Lidström

Detroit Red Wings

56,7 miljoner kronor (7,6)

2) Mats Sundin

Toronto Maple Leafs

50,7 miljoner kronor (6,8)

3) Markus Näslund

Vancouver Canucks

44,7 miljoner kronor (6,0)

4) Peter Forsberg

Philadelphia Flyers

42,5 miljoner kronor (5,7)

5) Daniel Alfredsson

Ottawa Senators

34,3 miljoner kronor (4,6)Mathias Öhlund

Vancouver Canucks

3,5 miljoner dollar

UTANFÖR TOPP 5

Mattias Norström

Los Angeles

2,6 miljoner dollar

Michael Nylander

New York Rangers

2,2 miljoner dollar

Kim Johnsson

Philadelphia Flyers

2,2 miljoner dollar

Tomas Holmström

Detroit Red Wings

1,3 miljoner dollar

Marcus Nilson

Calgary Flames

1,3 miljoner dollar

Daniel Sedin

Vancouver Canucks

1,3 miljoner dollar

Henrik Sedin

Vancouver Canucks

1,3 miljoner dollar

Kristian Huselius

Florida Panthers

1,2 miljoner dollar

I går möttes Detroits största talanger i en välgörenhetsmatch i Umeå.

Två spelare som ingen egentligen trodde på i draften, men som växt till två av hockeyvärldens största talanger. Och båda vill stanna i Detroit.

- Ja, det är mitt förstaval, säger ryssen Pavel Datsyuk till Sportbladet.

- Jag vill tillbaka till NHL. Även om det går att tjäna lika mycket pengar i Ryssland, så spelar jag hellre i Nord-

amerika.

Datsyuk vill ha mer

Datsyuk tjänade 1,5 miljoner dollar i Detroit förra säsongen. Mer än dubbelt så mycket som Zäta.

- Och jag vill naturligtvis ha mer nu, säger Datsyuk.

Hur är läget i förhandlingarna?

- Jag kan inte påstå att vi är nära i förhandlingarna, men inte heller mil ifrån varandra. Så vi får se.

Vad tror du om Zetterberg?

- Han är en fantastisk spelare och kompis. Detroit har säkert råd att behålla oss båda.

Men Zäta har hamnat i ett tufft förhandlingsläge med Detroit. För att behålla rättigheterna till svensken var de tvungna att ge honom ett kontraktsförslag före den 15 augusti.

Enligt alla rapporter var det ett skambud.

- Själv går jag inte in på några siffror, säger Zäta.

- Givetvis var jag inte helt nöjd med det bud jag fick. Annars hade jag ju redan skrivit på.

Zetterberg vill ha mer

Zetterberg är ett av offren för det nya lönetaket i NHL. Detroit har varit tvunget att i stort sett halvera sina lönekostnader från i fjol.

Senaste NHL-säsongen 2003/04 presterade svensken långt, långt över sin lön på 675000 dollar, som placerade honom i NHL:s bottenträsk lönemässigt.

- Det är klart att jag vill upp i lön och jag hoppas fortfarande att det ska lösa sig. Mycket handlar väl också om hur långt kontraktet ska vara, säger Zäta.

En normal säsong, och i ett lag med mer utrymme upp till lönetakets max 39 miljoner dollar, skulle en spelare som Henrik Zetterberg hamna kring två miljoner dollar i årslön.

- Men jag förstod att det skulle bli svårt då jag såg var lönetaket hamnade.

- Nu har Detroit gjort klart med Niklas Kronwall också, så nu är det bara jag och Pavel kvar, säger Zäta.