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#1 RyanBarnes!

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 07:13 AM

http://www.allsports...etroitCamp.html

The Detroit Red Wings Training Camp Roster includes some interesting names like Big Snake (tryout), Bootland, Ellis, Haskins, Herring (tryout), B Jarret (tryout), Amadio, Kindl, May, Quincey and Stamler.

Granted most prospects are not even close to playing in the NHL or even the AHL, but still looks like an improvement over the last few years from a physical standpoint in my opinion. Thoughts?
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:57 AM

For toughness there's...

Amadio
Big Snake
Herring
Bootland

All the other guys are the usual......Amadio is GR bound, it'd be nice if he got a good look by the parent though, Big Snake will impress, just don't know if there's much room, Herring I don't know much about, but will get some info on him...

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:08 AM

I've read that Stamler is willing to drop them too.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:35 AM

You are right Barnsey....hopefully he develops into a tough D-Man with a mean streak.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:45 AM

Doesn't Helm bring some physical play too? He's not big, but from what I've heard he's pretty gritty.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:49 AM

QUOTE (ToddDaGod @ August 27, 2005 - 10:45AM)
Doesn't Helm bring some physical play too? He's not big, but from what I've heard he's pretty gritty.

No, he's a guy that gets the cheap penalties, he's not the type to drop the gloves at all. His PIM's are very misleading in that regard.

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 02:24 AM

I would not mind seeing a few minutes of Big Snake over the course of the season. Then again maybe I'm just partial having had him on my current home-town Portland Winterhawks a while back

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE (Austrianwing @ August 28, 2005 - 03:24AM)
I would not mind seeing a few minutes of Big Snake over the course of the season. Then again maybe I'm just partial having had him on my current home-town Portland Winterhawks a while back

What'd you think of him? He had some "attitude problems" there, no?

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 11:16 AM

QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 27, 2005 - 08:13AM)
http://www.allsports...etroitCamp.html

The Detroit Red Wings Training Camp Roster includes some interesting names like Big Snake (tryout), Bootland, Ellis, Haskins, Herring (tryout), B Jarret (tryout), Amadio, Kindl, May, Quincey and Stamler.

Granted most prospects are not even close to playing in the NHL or even the AHL, but still looks like an improvement over the last few years from a physical standpoint in my opinion. Thoughts?

The Wings certainly have a lot of good looking prospects this year and in the years to come. It will be interesting to see where these guys end up this season.

I for one am hopeful that Bootland gets a chance on the Grind Line or even on the 4th line this season. I think he will be a really handy player for us in the future, and will play a role very similar to Maltby's.

I'm also anxious to see how Big Snake goes. If he shows the talent and toughness that I have been hearing about, then I will be one happy little Wings fan.

Kindl is another guy that I am interested in. There were a lot of people bashing him around here after the draft, but I think that he will turn into a pretty decent player. His offensive skills are noted, but he isn't as soft as people make him out to be. He's not Konstantinov, but he plays reasonably physical and isn't totally opposed to contact. People didn't see that last season, but if you think about it, his entire game was a bit off last year, both offensivley and defensivley. With a couple more years to adjust to the North American style of play and to fill out physically, I think he will come along in leaps and bounds.

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 02:15 PM

QUOTE (TNBT @ August 28, 2005 - 12:16PM)
QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 27, 2005 - 08:13AM)
http://www.allsports...etroitCamp.html

The Detroit Red Wings Training Camp Roster includes some interesting names like Big Snake (tryout), Bootland, Ellis, Haskins, Herring (tryout), B Jarret (tryout), Amadio, Kindl, May, Quincey and Stamler.

Granted most prospects are not even close to playing in the NHL or even the AHL, but still looks like an improvement over the last few years from a physical standpoint in my opinion. Thoughts?

The Wings certainly have a lot of good looking prospects this year and in the years to come. It will be interesting to see where these guys end up this season.

I for one am hopeful that Bootland gets a chance on the Grind Line or even on the 4th line this season. I think he will be a really handy player for us in the future, and will play a role very similar to Maltby's.

I'm also anxious to see how Big Snake goes. If he shows the talent and toughness that I have been hearing about, then I will be one happy little Wings fan.

Kindl is another guy that I am interested in. There were a lot of people bashing him around here after the draft, but I think that he will turn into a pretty decent player. His offensive skills are noted, but he isn't as soft as people make him out to be. He's not Konstantinov, but he plays reasonably physical and isn't totally opposed to contact. People didn't see that last season, but if you think about it, his entire game was a bit off last year, both offensivley and defensivley. With a couple more years to adjust to the North American style of play and to fill out physically, I think he will come along in leaps and bounds.

Kindl reminds me of Fischer. He was considered a offensive defenseman in juniors much like Kindl. Fischer didn't have a spectacular rookie season but had a very good sophomore year scoring 78 pts while adding 141 PIM. I think Kindl is capable of something similar.
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Posted 29 August 2005 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 28, 2005 - 03:15PM)
QUOTE (TNBT @ August 28, 2005 - 12:16PM)
QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 27, 2005 - 08:13AM)
http://www.allsports...etroitCamp.html

The Detroit Red Wings Training Camp Roster includes some interesting names like Big Snake (tryout), Bootland, Ellis, Haskins, Herring (tryout), B Jarret (tryout), Amadio, Kindl, May, Quincey and Stamler.

Granted most prospects are not even close to playing in the NHL or even the AHL, but still looks like an improvement over the last few years from a physical standpoint in my opinion. Thoughts?

The Wings certainly have a lot of good looking prospects this year and in the years to come. It will be interesting to see where these guys end up this season.

I for one am hopeful that Bootland gets a chance on the Grind Line or even on the 4th line this season. I think he will be a really handy player for us in the future, and will play a role very similar to Maltby's.

I'm also anxious to see how Big Snake goes. If he shows the talent and toughness that I have been hearing about, then I will be one happy little Wings fan.

Kindl is another guy that I am interested in. There were a lot of people bashing him around here after the draft, but I think that he will turn into a pretty decent player. His offensive skills are noted, but he isn't as soft as people make him out to be. He's not Konstantinov, but he plays reasonably physical and isn't totally opposed to contact. People didn't see that last season, but if you think about it, his entire game was a bit off last year, both offensivley and defensivley. With a couple more years to adjust to the North American style of play and to fill out physically, I think he will come along in leaps and bounds.

Kindl reminds me of Fischer. He was considered a offensive defenseman in juniors much like Kindl. Fischer didn't have a spectacular rookie season but had a very good sophomore year scoring 78 pts while adding 141 PIM. I think Kindl is capable of something similar.

I see certain elements of Fischer in Kindl as well.

Fischer was considered to be an offensive defenseman but struggled in his first season in North America, but when he got some experience and adjusted to the style of play, he picked up his scoring and also showed a solid physical side to his game.

That is sort of the development I expect/hope for from Kindl. At this point in his career, people see Kindl as just an offensive defenseman, but like Fischer, I think he will show more of a physical, tougher side this season and in the future.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 04:03 PM

Herring is an energy player, probably not a fighter at the NHL level. He is physical and very good defensively, and has been able to shut down pretty much every forward he's matched up against in the OHL and in his short stay in the ECHL last year.

He's a clutch playoff performer. Had almost as many points in a few playoff games last year in the OHL as he had in the entire regular season. He was one of the top rookie playoff performers in the ECHL playoffs, with a four point game, including a game winner, in the first round. Had a couple other multi-point games as well, I think.

People don't know about him because he had some serious injuries in major junior and lost a lot of time. Don't be surprised if he makes the team as a checking line forward who scores some tough goals from time to time.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 10:25 PM

When does it start?
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Posted 06 September 2005 - 10:38 PM

From DetNews.com:

Prospects schedule

The game schedule for the Red Wings' prospects camp at Traverse City's Centre ICE Arena. There are two sheets of ice at the arena.

Today: Tampa Bay vs. Atlanta, 7 p.m.; Minnesota vs. Columbus, 7:30

Wednesday: Tampa Bay vs. Columbus, 7 p.m.; Detroit vs. Minnesota, 7:30

Thursday: Minnesota vs. Tampa Bay, 7 p.m.; Detroit vs. Atlanta, 7:30

Friday: Columbus vs. Atlanta, 6:30 p.m.; Detroit vs. Tampa Bay, 7

Saturday: Minnesota vs. Atlanta, 2 p.m.; Detroit vs. Columbus, 2:30




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Posted 07 September 2005 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE (TNBT @ August 29, 2005 - 02:33AM)
QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 28, 2005 - 03:15PM)
QUOTE (TNBT @ August 28, 2005 - 12:16PM)
QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 27, 2005 - 08:13AM)
http://www.allsports...etroitCamp.html

The Detroit Red Wings Training Camp Roster includes some interesting names like Big Snake (tryout), Bootland, Ellis, Haskins, Herring (tryout), B Jarret (tryout), Amadio, Kindl, May, Quincey and Stamler.

Granted most prospects are not even close to playing in the NHL or even the AHL, but still looks like an improvement over the last few years from a physical standpoint in my opinion. Thoughts?

The Wings certainly have a lot of good looking prospects this year and in the years to come. It will be interesting to see where these guys end up this season.

I for one am hopeful that Bootland gets a chance on the Grind Line or even on the 4th line this season. I think he will be a really handy player for us in the future, and will play a role very similar to Maltby's.

I'm also anxious to see how Big Snake goes. If he shows the talent and toughness that I have been hearing about, then I will be one happy little Wings fan.

Kindl is another guy that I am interested in. There were a lot of people bashing him around here after the draft, but I think that he will turn into a pretty decent player. His offensive skills are noted, but he isn't as soft as people make him out to be. He's not Konstantinov, but he plays reasonably physical and isn't totally opposed to contact. People didn't see that last season, but if you think about it, his entire game was a bit off last year, both offensivley and defensivley. With a couple more years to adjust to the North American style of play and to fill out physically, I think he will come along in leaps and bounds.

Kindl reminds me of Fischer. He was considered a offensive defenseman in juniors much like Kindl. Fischer didn't have a spectacular rookie season but had a very good sophomore year scoring 78 pts while adding 141 PIM. I think Kindl is capable of something similar.

I see certain elements of Fischer in Kindl as well.

Fischer was considered to be an offensive defenseman but struggled in his first season in North America, but when he got some experience and adjusted to the style of play, he picked up his scoring and also showed a solid physical side to his game.

That is sort of the development I expect/hope for from Kindl. At this point in his career, people see Kindl as just an offensive defenseman, but like Fischer, I think he will show more of a physical, tougher side this season and in the future.

Fischer in juniors...he OWNED juniors.

And after how he played internationally...

He will do really well this season and is not far off from Norris contention.
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Posted 07 September 2005 - 11:00 AM

To be honest, Fischer has been disappointing. We get draft pick 19, and we use it on another Fischer? Surely with such a high pick we could have found someone better? I'm not too satisfied at this stage.

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE (Aussie_Wing @ September 7, 2005 - 12:00PM)
To be honest, Fischer has been disappointing. We get draft pick 19, and we use it on another Fischer? Surely with such a high pick we could have found someone better? I'm not too satisfied at this stage.

Fischer has hardly been a disappointment.

He was freakin amazing in the 2002 playofsf and in the beginning of the 02-03 season before his knee injury which put him out through the end of the season and the playoffs.

he had not fully recovered from his knee injury the next year and was slowed BADLY.

Fischer in open ice when healthy is quicker than Mathieu Dandenault...in 03-04 he was skating barely better than Hatcher because he was still getting the knee back in shape.

Last year in international play and Czech league play, Fischer had his agility and speed back, and was dominant defensively. He had to be restrained offensively because he was paired with Zidlicky at the tournaments, but in the Czech league he was among the leading defensemen in points and was the only one who could play a strong defensive and/or physical game.
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Posted 07 September 2005 - 02:22 PM

At next season Fischer will make huge impact. He was awesome in Europe with the new NHL-rules and was the best D-man for Czech Rep. at the World Championships.
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Posted 07 September 2005 - 03:44 PM

Some good news is although Kolasau's name wasn't on the list, apparently he must be there because there is a picture of him on redwingscentral.com. I know Nill wanted him to come to NA to work on his game, hopefully he'll stay.

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 11:07 PM

The Wings won 4-1 against Minnesota tonight. RedWingsCentral will have more details later on.

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