I have heard a little of Jiri Hudler but know little of what kind of potential he has. Any opinions?
18 replies to this topic
#2
ToddDaGod
-
- Member
-
- 1,515 posts
1st Line All-Star
Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:04 AM
A lot of people think he's the next St.Louis, but he's not nearly as fast and has a bad work ethic. Usually tiny guys can fly, which helps them in tight NA rinks, but he's slow and right around 5'7. If he gets his s**t togethor and comes to play every night, he could very well anchor a second line winger spot. I know he's a center, but I think he'll have better luck on the wing. Seems like another problem just waiting to happen, with an attitude just like Sergei's.
#3
fightfan24
-
- Member
-
- 1,035 posts
Enforcer
- Location:Ice Planet Hoth
Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:23 AM
He's got more moves than Ex Lax but like Todd says -- not fast and is still immature. He can pass well and has a nice high wrist shot. I'm not sure if he will make it -- reminds me of Dennis Holland (Ken's little brother) who led the Western Hockey League in scoring but had no wheels and ended with a short career in the minors.
#4
ColdWarrior
-
- Member
-
- 610 posts
USAF Winger
- Location:MI, CA, MT, CO, OH & DC
Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:46 AM
I think his performance is entirely dependant on his linemates. His average speed & small side dictates a need for strong, big or fast linemates to open up room for his skills to shine.
#5
RyanBarnes!
-
- HoF Booster
-
- 5,604 posts
Legend
Posted 05 September 2005 - 11:16 AM
I think he'll go back to Europe in a couple of years.
"Joey (Kocur) has no fear" -Lyndon Byers
"Empty-net goals are for homos" -Al Iafrate
"Empty-net goals are for homos" -Al Iafrate
#6
Bliz
-
- Member
-
- 407 posts
3rd Line Checker
Posted 05 September 2005 - 03:28 PM
With Datsyuk signing in Russia, I think we're going to see what Hudler can do sooner rather than later. Whether or not he's ready to contribute nightly is up in the air.
#7
ToddDaGod
-
- Member
-
- 1,515 posts
1st Line All-Star
Posted 05 September 2005 - 03:29 PM
| QUOTE |
| With Datsyuk signing in Russia, I think we're going to see what Hudler can do sooner rather than later. Whether or not he's ready to contribute nightly is up in the air. |
Agreed, well said.
#8
norrisnick
-
- Bronze Booster
-
- 16,002 posts
GOAT
Posted 05 September 2005 - 03:36 PM
He has the potential to be as good as Datsyuk has been up to this point. Pavel isn't the fastest guy in the world either, plus speed and jump is something that can be worked on a bit with the proper dedication. He's still very young. He'll mature. Hopefully...
peace
peace
#9
ToddDaGod
-
- Member
-
- 1,515 posts
1st Line All-Star
Posted 05 September 2005 - 03:40 PM
| QUOTE |
| He has the potential to be as good as Datsyuk has been up to this point. Pavel isn't the fastest guy in the world either, plus speed and jump is something that can be worked on a bit with the proper dedication. He's still very young. He'll mature. Hopefully... |
You know, I never thought Datsyuk was that fast, but then he was in the all-star games fastest skater comp. How does that happen? He actually did pretty good, seeming how he screwed up at the start.
#10
norrisnick
-
- Bronze Booster
-
- 16,002 posts
GOAT
Posted 05 September 2005 - 04:17 PM
| QUOTE (ToddDaGod @ September 5, 2005 - 03:40PM) |
| You know, I never thought Datsyuk was that fast, but then he was in the all-star games fastest skater comp. How does that happen? He actually did pretty good, seeming how he screwed up at the start. |
A competition Bill Guerin won a few years ago and Ed Jovanovski has competed in. It's all a matter of timing and being able to power through those corners. In game speed is a much better indicator of things. He's shifty and has ok speed but he's not a blazer like Fedorov.
peace
#11
ToddDaGod
-
- Member
-
- 1,515 posts
1st Line All-Star
Posted 05 September 2005 - 05:39 PM
| QUOTE |
| A competition Bill Guerin won a few years ago and Ed Jovanovski has competed in. It's all a matter of timing and being able to power through those corners. In game speed is a much better indicator of things. He's shifty and has ok speed but he's not a blazer like Fedorov. |
lol, thanks for putting it into perspective for me. Yeah, Jovanovski and Guerin? Who picks the players for these damn things?
#12
eva unit zero
-
- Member
-
- 12,734 posts
Save the Princess...Save the World
Posted 05 September 2005 - 09:00 PM
| QUOTE (ColdWarrior @ September 5, 2005 - 11:46AM) |
| I think his performance is entirely dependant on his linemates. His average speed & small side dictates a need for strong, big or fast linemates to open up room for his skills to shine. |
average speed, small size, great vision and puck skills reminds me of someone else whose initial NHL projection was far bleaker than Hudler's.
"I've never seen a warlock do that without his magic."
"I once devoured a monk's soul. It tasted like chocolate."
"I once devoured a monk's soul. It tasted like chocolate."
#13
rick zombo
-
- Member
-
- 4,752 posts
Grit
Posted 06 September 2005 - 11:06 AM
You talking Gretzky?
I hope not.
Who?
I hope not.
Who?
"In Detroit, every day is a good day to win"
#14
eva unit zero
-
- Member
-
- 12,734 posts
Save the Princess...Save the World
Posted 06 September 2005 - 11:52 AM
| QUOTE (rick zombo @ September 6, 2005 - 12:06PM) |
| You talking Gretzky? I hope not. Who? |
there ya go.
Not saying Hudler is gonna be nearly as good, but you understand the point?
"I've never seen a warlock do that without his magic."
"I once devoured a monk's soul. It tasted like chocolate."
"I once devoured a monk's soul. It tasted like chocolate."
#15
p.datsyuk13
-
- Member
-
- 681 posts
Lucky 13
Posted 06 September 2005 - 12:15 PM
if he bulked up a little bit, and kept his head up he could be a great playmaker. very creative with the puck. and with the sad sad loss of my beloved pavel datsyuk , some puckhandling offense is greatly needed.
#16
haroldsnepsts
-
- HoF Booster Mod
-
- 15,220 posts
"Classy"
Posted 06 September 2005 - 03:02 PM
| QUOTE (eva unit zero @ September 6, 2005 - 11:52AM) | ||
there ya go. Not saying Hudler is gonna be nearly as good, but you understand the point? |
They were calling Gretzky "The Great One" when he was 13.
He had massive expectations on him when he entered the NHL.
And as you pointed out, Hudler is no Gretzky.
#17
rick zombo
-
- Member
-
- 4,752 posts
Grit
Posted 07 September 2005 - 07:29 AM
| QUOTE (haroldsnepsts @ September 6, 2005 - 05:02PM) | ||||
They were calling Gretzky "The Great One" when he was 13. He had massive expectations on him when he entered the NHL. And as you pointed out, Hudler is no Gretzky. |
That's right. And what I'm saying!
"In Detroit, every day is a good day to win"
#18
TNBT
-
- Member
-
- 1,329 posts
1st Line All-Star
Posted 07 September 2005 - 11:21 PM
| QUOTE (ColdWarrior @ September 5, 2005 - 11:46AM) |
| I think his performance is entirely dependant on his linemates. His average speed & small side dictates a need for strong, big or fast linemates to open up room for his skills to shine. |
I agree with this 100%.
Hudler has a huge amount of talent and is a great playmaker, but he is small and he isn't as quick as you would like to see in someone that little.
Hopefully these new rules will help to open up the ice for him and will mean that he wont cop as much physical punishment, which will make him more effective. However, unless the NHL takes physical contact out of the game entirely (obviously not going to happen), then he will need someone with some decent size out there with him to back him up and make opponents think twice about taking a shot at him.
If we send Hudler out there with Datsyuk and Zetterberg (as an example; wouldn't happen in real life), then Hudler would get the crap beaten out of him. If we sent him out with a McCarty and a Bertuzzi (once again, example only), then Hudler would still get hit a bit, but nowhere near as much, and he would be a pretty effective player.
#19
zetterbergfan40
-
- Member
-
- 250 posts
4th Line Grinder
- Location:Michigan
Posted 12 September 2005 - 12:11 PM
hes really young and has alot of time to develop, so we will see in 2-3 years where he is, he could be very good, he may not even be done growin if hes a late bloomer
Similar Topics
| Topic | Forum | Started By | Stats | Last Post Info | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Wings interested in Weiss |
General Discussion | Zetts |
|
|
|
Best Songs That Pump You Up at the Rink |
General Discussion | The Axe |
|
|
|
The Hottest Red Wing
|
Between Periods | Guest_lidstrom#5 (Guest) |
|
|
0 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users
