theoctopus 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 Don´t know if this already has been reported...anyway... It sure seems like Igor Grigorenko is of to a very nice start in the RSL... ANOTHER goal and assist in his last game making it a total of 3 goals and 2 assist in 5 games thus far... Nice to see him working his way back to the top! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yzerman&thewings=CUP 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 sweet, can't wait til he is here next year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterbergfan40 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 yea me either, maybe we can start a new set of eurotwins with him and zetterberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timothy1997 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 this post should really be in the wings prospects forums. Grigorenko is going to be a good red wing but the key word to this is GOING TO BE. Not a red wing yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blgillett 48 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 It sounds like he is getting close to 100% again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 19, 2005 Can anyone provide a link to the page where I can view the scores and stats of the RSL season. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heals_3000 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2005 Can anyone provide a link to the page where I can view the scores and stats of the RSL season. Thanks rushockey.com (Little behind in the scores though) or RussianProspects.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNBT 3 Report post Posted September 19, 2005 yea me either, maybe we can start a new set of eurotwins with him and zetterberg I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 20, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 20, 2005 rushockey.com (Little behind in the scores though) or RussianProspects.com Thanks I appreciate the links Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mibby 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. Do we have to call Grigorenko a euro-anything?? It just sounds stupid, and on top of that it doesn't make sense. Russia is not in Europe, and Grigorenko is from Russia. Look at a map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko that line really would be soo sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 Do we have to call Grigorenko a euro-anything?? It just sounds stupid, and on top of that it doesn't make sense. Russia is not in Europe, and Grigorenko is from Russia. Look at a map. And? Five out of 8 Samara, Russias are located in Europe including the only one I'd classify a "city." If you look at a map you'd realize that a hefty chunk of Russia lies in Europe up until the Ural mountains. Extra bit of trivia, Datsyuk is from a city that lies on the "border" between Europe and Asia. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mibby 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2005 Grigorenko is from Togliatti, Russia. This city is west of Moscow, and is considered part of Asia. So, he is not European, and even if he was it would be stupid to call him a euro-anything. It's very uncreative and overused. Considering the bulk of players that come from Europe, it's very dumb to use Euro as a prefix. It would be like using "Ameri" to describe and American hockey player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted September 22, 2005 Grigorenko is from Togliatti, Russia. This city is west of Moscow, and is considered part of Asia. So, he is not European, and even if he was it would be stupid to call him a euro-anything. It's very uncreative and overused. Considering the bulk of players that come from Europe, it's very dumb to use Euro as a prefix. It would be like using "Ameri" to describe and American hockey player. West of Moscow does not equal Asia (considering what you are considering Europe is West of Moscow). East of the Urals equals Asia. Togliatti is West of the Urals. I agree the term is dumb, but not because he isn't European. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapshots 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko that line really would be soo sick. Great to see Grigorenko contributing again. As good as his stats are, the key will be his skating. Igor's not very big (5'11). But he was fast, with good acceleration and strong balance. He was a tank, very hard to catch and hard to knock off the puck. Given his injuries, there's no gaurantee that he'll ever regain the skating that made him one of the game's best prospects. But these numbers coming out of Russia are sure a good sign. Anyone else hear that his weight is close to 220? 5'11, 220? That's tough to envision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted September 22, 2005 Great to see Grigorenko contributing again. As good as his stats are, the key will be his skating. Igor's not very big (5'11). But he was fast, with good acceleration and strong balance. He was a tank, very hard to catch and hard to knock off the puck. Given his injuries, there's no gaurantee that he'll ever regain the skating that made him one of the game's best prospects. But these numbers coming out of Russia are sure a good sign. Anyone else hear that his weight is close to 220? 5'11, 220? That's tough to envision. Most recent roster mugshot with Severstal. A poster at another forum (this was during preseason tournies which Igor played well in) said he was almost as fast as he was prior to the accident he just needed to add more all around strength. His stats would indicate he can play just fine. The also corroborated the nearly 220lbs story. That and Igor's closer to 5'10". Stout bastard. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steafo 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2005 Hes probably about the size of Lapointe...The Russian Bulldog. Hopefully with more offense though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 22, 2005 Hes probably about the size of Lapointe...The Russian Bulldog. Hopefully with more offense though. Before his injury he was considered a comparable prospect to Kovalchuk...if he's back to that level of skating, that's wonderful. His production in the RSL is even with Kovalchuk's as of last check, and his defensive game has only improved since he returned from the injury (relative to pre-injury) If he's made as strong a recovery as some of this suggests....he might make the jump and be BETTER than Kovalchuk.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapshots 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Before his injury he was considered a comparable prospect to Kovalchuk...if he's back to that level of skating, that's wonderful. His production in the RSL is even with Kovalchuk's as of last check, and his defensive game has only improved since he returned from the injury (relative to pre-injury) If he's made as strong a recovery as some of this suggests....he might make the jump and be BETTER than Kovalchuk.... No way. I've never heard anyone say he had even a sniff of Kovalchuck's potential. Ever. A guy people compare Grigorenko to his Richard Zednik. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mighty Wings 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Hes probably about the size of Lapointe...The Russian Bulldog. Hopefully with more offense though. That description also fits another player in the NHL. Jarome Iginla? Both have similar weight, although iginla is a couple of inches taller. Both can use finesse and have incredible strength. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steafo 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Yeah i think comparing him to Kovalchuk might be going a little too far. Hopefully he can just return to his previous form, and get his ass over here next year. We need some right wingers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingMan56 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Yeah, most likely not Kovalchuk..but I can see him coming in next season and scoring 15-20 goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heals_3000 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Once again, he knotches another assist in his game against HC MVD last night (Sept 22). Hopefully halfway through the RSL season he will still be hanging around the point-per-game mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steafo 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2005 QUOTE (steafo @ September 22, 2005 - 12:31PM) Hes probably about the size of Lapointe...The Russian Bulldog. Hopefully with more offense though. That description also fits another player in the NHL. Jarome Iginla? Both have similar weight, although iginla is a couple of inches taller. Both can use finesse and have incredible strength. I was trying to not push his skill value way above his head...he has already been compared to kovalchuk in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
